keen four question - level of the moon

Scarlet · Post by **Scarlet** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:20

Well I hate to ask here... but my regular comp is not working. But anyways...

...how do you get outside of the pyramid of the moon? There is that door on the top of it.

StupidBunny · Post by **StupidBunny** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:24

If you go across the bridge in the inchworm room to that mostly-empty leftmost area, pogo straight up. There is a hidden area in the ceiling. In that hidden area is a pole, which you can grab at. If you climb up this pole you'll get to a secret room. Don't go through the door at the top of this secret room; rather, jump up at the door, as there's another hidden area up there. Go up and to the left, and you'll drop down in yet another hidden room full of ice cream cones and another door. Go through this door, and you'll be outside.

I hope that was at all clear...

Scarlet · Post by **Scarlet** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 20:25

Could someone youtube this?

mortimer · Post by **mortimer** » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:35

Scarlet · Post by **Scarlet** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:18

Yay.

I think that this is one of the bigger secrets.

Snortimer · Post by **Snortimer** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:21

Wow. I'd never seen this before.

Thanks.

TerminILL · Post by **TerminILL** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:30

totes found this accidentally once.

mortimer · Post by **mortimer** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:30

StupidBunny · Post by **StupidBunny** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 17:49

I have no idea about this one, but my first instinct would be to guess that it's just staggered by when they load into memory. This would be why the shooters in the first corridor go off so irregularly, since your approach to them isn't fluid. Also, notice that when you enter the inchworm room, there's a pair of shooters going off simultaneously next to the door, so they'd load into memory at the same time. If you run off to the right, and then back, they will no longer be going off at the same time, but rather the one on the right--ie the one that would load first--would be shooting slightly before the other. Again, not sure, but this seems to make sense.

EDIT: And as for why the four are firing at the same time in the video, my guess would be that the game was saved and later reloaded there.

Post by **Ceilick** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 19:47

afaik, that's correct, stupidbunny. That's the way I've thought of it when approaching those situations in modding, and also may be a hint for players to leave an area and come back to try to change the shot pattern of these areas to something more manageable.

guynietoren · Post by **guynietoren** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 20:57

I just thought their first shot was when the entered the screen or timed based on that. From what I know you can run through all of them if you don't stop running forward after they show on the screen.

DHeadshot · Post by **DHeadshot** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 22:07

All I know is that Duke Nukem does the same thing with those bouncing mines...

Paramultart · Post by **Paramultart** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 0:16

I remember seeing someone do this trick about 14 years ago.
Thanks for the YT link. Cool secret, although not a lot of treasure out there.

Post by **Levellass** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 22:23

The guns are inactive once they're offscreen, but work regularly after that, like most sprites in fact. If you're going to enter an area with lots of guns, do so quickly, so they all fire at once, leaving a big space to run past, inching along will get them shooting all the time, which sucks.