The Ultimate semi-official CK Challenge (Woooooot?!)

Keenfan · Post by **Keenfan** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:11

Let's beat all official CK titles (plus TUIT; minus Gameboy) on all difficulties (if there are different ones) with as little deaths as possible!

First of all, thanks to JackDaniels who "invented" this game for CK4.

Current scores: Click Me!

The rules:

I) The following games are included so far:
CK 1, CK 2, CK 3, CK 4, CK 5, CK 6, KDreams, CK 7, CK 8, CK 9

II) Every participant on the earlier competitions (CK 4 and CK 5) will get his results transferred into this competition.

III) The competition starts now but you may take as much time to complete it as you like. You are not allowed to practice levels before you start counting your deaths, though.

1) You play through all of the levels of Commander Keen 1-9 (except for the "Pyramid of the Forbidden" and the bonus levels in CK 7, 8 and 9, which are optional) and count your deaths. You may play on Easy, Normal and Hard mode. If you wish to leave out a difficulty, do so and no death count will be added.

1a) In Keen 5, if you get hit by a Shikadi mine at the end of the game but still win the game, this counts as a death as well!

1b) If you simply can't complete a level, you are allowed to give up. In this case your attempt will be counted as 150 deaths and you can move on.

2) Saving is only allowed on the world map to prevent you from getting a Game Over screen again and again. If you stop playing before you managed to complete all levels, you are allowed to save on the world map to continue this session later. You are not allowed to save in a level at any time! If you quit the game before you finished a level or the game, don't forget to write down your deaths so far to add them as soon as you continue.

3) The competition starts as soon as you read this. You are not allowed to practice the levels before you start. We want to know how good you are right now, not after practising the levels.

4) As soon as you've finsished one run you post your total deaths ammount and your ammount of deaths per level in this post or send me a PM. I'll add your score here.

5) In-game Cheats are not allowed. That includes the impossible bullet trick.

6) Don't cheat while you're counting!

Have fun! I'm looking forward to your scores!

Stealthy71088 · Post by **Stealthy71088** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 14:36

How are we treating saves? Because if we allow them within levels, you won't see any more deaths. But if we disallow them in between levels, making everyone play through an entire game per run, that seems a little too harsh.

Other than that, it sounds like fun! I expect K3 to knock me around, but I expect to be very competitive on the others.

LJH · Post by **LJH** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 15:11

Why is POTF and the bonus levels on TUIT excluded? I think they should be included... even though POTF at the least will majorly up the death count... xD

Anyway, I'll edit my results into this post as I get them...

Keen 1
Entire game: No deaths.

Keen 2

Keen 3

Keen Dreams Easy

Keen 4 Easy
Cave of the Descendants: 1 Death
Yet to complete: Pyramid of the Forbidden, Pyramid of Shadows, Pyramid of the Gnosticene Elders, Isle of Tar, Isle of Fire, Well of Wishes (3 deaths so far on PotF, haven't tried the rest)

Keen 5 Easy
Neutrino Burst Injector: 1 Death
QED: 2 Deaths

Keen 6 Easy
Bloogfoods Inc: 1 Death
Bloogdome: 1 Death
BASA: 2 Deaths

Keen 7 Easy

Keen 8 Easy

Keen 9 Easy

(I will do the harder difficulties too eventually, I guess... but I'll start with easy.)

Keenfan · Post by **Keenfan** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 15:27

Stealthy71088 wrote:How are we treating saves?

Just read rule 2):

Keenfan wrote:2) Saving is only allowed on the world map to prevent you from getting a Game Over screen again and again. If you stop playing before you managed to complete all levels, you are allowed to save on the world map to continue this session later. You are not allowed to save in a level at any time! If you quit the game before you finished a level or the game, don't forget to write down your deaths so far to add them as soon as you continue.

Deaths count every time, saving is only allowed to avoid the game over screen and to continue your run if you have to quit in the middle of a game.

LJH wrote:Why is POTF and the bonus levels on TUIT excluded? I think they should be included... even though POTF at the least will majorly up the death count... xD

They are very, very difficult.

But, as I mentionedin tule 1, they are optional. You can add your death count if you want to, but you don't need them to finish one run.

Stealthy71088 · Post by **Stealthy71088** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 18:16

Keenfan wrote: Just read rule 2):

Wow I don't know how I missed that.

Keenfan wrote:They are very, very difficult. But, as I mentionedin tule 1, they are optional. You can add your death count if you want to, but you don't need them to finish one run.

This seems fair to me. But if you're going to do this, I would consider including the Korath III base in the list as well. I don't remember keen 6's secret level well enough to have an opinion on that one. And I would keep a separate bonus death tally for levels like that.

shikadi · Post by **shikadi** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 18:18

keen 1

level 1 : 0 deaths, 700 points =p
level 2 : impossible to die, still 700 points
level 5 : 0 deaths, 700 points
level 3 : 0 deaths, 12900 points
level 4: 1 death (little brother distracted me), 33200 points, why not
level 6: 0 deaths, still 33200 points
level 7: 0 deaths, 37000 points
level 8: 0 deaths, 47000 points
level 10: 0 deaths, 50800 points
level 9: 0 deaths , 54400 points
level 11: 0 deaths, 60400 points
level 12: 0 deaths, 65100 points
level 13: 0 deaths, 66700 points
level 15: 0 deaths, 79100 points
level 16: 0 deaths, 94400 points

putted in points because the "0 deaths" become a bit repetitive.

keen 3
level 1 : 0 deaths, 14900 points
level 2 : 0 deaths, 39100 points
level 3 : 0 deaths, 67300 points
level 4 : 0 deaths, 91200 points
level 5 : 0 deaths, 95800 points
level 6 : 0 deaths, 116800 points
level 7 : 0 deaths, 157000 points

StupidBunny · Post by **StupidBunny** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 18:20

Keen 6's secret level is fairly easy, at least for me. It's definitely a hell of a lot smaller than PotF or the Korath III Base are.

I'll be in on this too, although I've got a lot of busy ahead of me and I may not be able to invest much time in Keening...

Stealthy71088 · Post by **Stealthy71088** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 19:00

Keen 4 on easy (I think I'll do all the difficulties)

Cleared with only 3 deaths.

1 death- Cave of the Descendants - Didn't move out of the way when a skypest was coming. Felt very stupid.

1 death- Pyramid of the Moons - Did a blind jump from the gold crystal, landed almost ontop of an arachnut and forgot I could shoot them.

1 death- Isle of Tar - Tried to make the jump to the right of the pyramid of drops so I could effectively skip the level. I missed....

LJH · Post by **LJH** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:47

It's definitely a hell of a lot smaller than PotF or the Korath III Base are.

Because (unless you're on Easy) you so can't beat Korath III Base in about 15 seconds... =P

StupidBunny · Post by **StupidBunny** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:19

LJH wrote:
It's definitely a hell of a lot smaller than PotF or the Korath III Base are.
Because (unless you're on Easy) you so can't beat Korath III Base in about 15 seconds... =P

...that's true. I always play the whole thing even though I always just break the fuse at the end, so I forgot that the whole tower bit is optional...

Dibodo · Post by **Dibodo** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 16:42

Level: Keen1 Keen2 keen3
1 0 0 0
2 0 0 0
3 0 0 0
4 0 0 0
5 0 0 0
6 0 0 1 vorticongrunt
7 0 0 1 stranded fish
8 0 0 0
9 0 1 guard robot 1 jack
10 0 0 1 vorti ninja
11 0 1 vorticon elite 7 >: youth's
push me in the water
further vorticon grunt
and fixed pistol
12 0 0 5 Meeps vorticon grunt
and fixed pistol
13 0 0 0
14 1 yorp push me 3 vorticon elite 5 meep vorti ninja
in spike plants
15 0 0 0
16 0 1 vorticon grunt 1

Eros · Post by **Eros** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 23:05

so how is the "dierightscreenwin" trick treated?

heck, how is any diebutwin trick treated?

mortimer · Post by **mortimer** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:16

Dibodo · Post by **Dibodo** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 15:20

Keen Dreams on normal:

Level 1 0 deaths
Level 2 12 deaths >:
Level 3 0 deaths
Level 4 0 deaths
Level 5 3 deaths
Level 6 0 deaths
Level 7 0 deaths
Level 8 0 deaths
Level 9 0 deaths
Level 10 1 death
Level 11 12 deaths

Level 12 1 death

I played this game for the third time in my life. Keen Dreams is not my favorite Keen game.

Keen 4 on normal:

Border Village 0
Slug Village 1 (jump in the fire

)
The Perilous Pit 0
Cave of the Descendents 0
Chasm of Chills 0
Crystalus 3 (skypest, lick, egg of poison slug)
Hillville 0
Sand Yego 2 (skypest, mimrock)
Miragia 0
Lifewater Oasis 0
Pyramid of the Moons 0
Pyramid of Shadows 1 (spear hit me)
Pyramid of the Gnosticene Ancients 0
Isle of Tar 0
Isle of Fire 0
Well of Wishes 2 (Dopefish

, underwater mine hit me)

Dibodo · Post by **Dibodo** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 16:40

Keen 5 on normal:

Ion Ventilation System 0
The Security Center 0
Defense Tunnel Burrh 0
Regulation Control Center 2
Defense Tunnel Sorra 4
Neutrino Burst Injector 3
Defense Tunnel Teln 1
Brownian Motion Inducer 1
Defense Tunnel Vlook 0
Energy Flow System 2
Gravitational Dumping Hub 0 in normal part
2 in way to secret level (left part of level)
play it for fun so i have save it on the end
of the normal level
Korath III Base 2
Quantum Explosion Dynamo 6