Who's that guy standing behind Billy at the end of Keen 4?

VikingBoyBilly · Post by **VikingBoyBilly** » Sat May 10, 2008 0:28

At the end of Keen 4, when Billy and the gnostican council are gathered around the oracle of wisdom (or whatever its called), there's this mysterious character standing behind Billy. He has gray skin, wears a yellow cloak, and has a black helmet with a red O on it. He doesn't say or do anything. He's just there. Who is this guy, and what does he have anything to do with the story?

And to touch on yet another insignificant inconsistency, they activate the oracle by flipping a big lever sticking out of it. This was for comedic purposes of course, but if the oracle chamber could be activated just by pulling a switch, did Billy really NEED to save all those council guys? Couldn't he figure out how to do it by himself?

memsys · Post by **memsys** » Sat May 10, 2008 0:50

the guy in yellow is a council page just press F1 in the main menu and go to the story

and maybe only high council members can flip the switch

VikingBoyBilly · Post by **VikingBoyBilly** » Sat May 10, 2008 1:17

Errrr yeah..... I guess I should've done more research before making a topic

Commander Spleen · Post by **Commander Spleen** » Sat May 10, 2008 1:25

Perhaps the Oracle's security system is sufficiently advanced, and thus is indistinguishable from magic.

VikingBoyBilly · Post by **VikingBoyBilly** » Sat May 10, 2008 1:35

And if that oracle stone thing is what ultimately gives Keen information, maybe the Shikadi should have destroyed the oracle instead of kidnapping the council guys? The council guys are immortal and can't be killed, so maybe the big oracle is indestructible and/or can't be moved from it's chamber (it's pretty big, after all).

And this is way OT, but who is Commander Keen's brother? It's his BROTHER's football helmet, right? But we've never seen him in the entirety of the games. Maybe he moved out or went to college or something. It's pretty obvious that his background involves having been a football player at one point, and that's all we know about him.

Post by **KeenRush** » Sat May 10, 2008 6:45

Yes, actually the only thing we know about his brother is that he has a football helmet.

But as the helmet is so big, it's assumed it's an older brothers', and old enough to be in college or have moved out or whatever, and so on.

And also, Mortimer might have some further use for Oracle, it being a monolith of ancient wisdom. No need to destroy it yet.

VikingBoyBilly · Post by **VikingBoyBilly** » Sat May 10, 2008 9:13

If Keen had a radio transmitter that picked up the shikadi conversation, couldn't he have gone out on a limb and flew in the general direction the signal was coming from? I mean, if he was able to locate Vorticon VI without any directions, surely the location of the armageddon machine could have been guestimated without some all-seeing monolith's help.

StupidBunny · Post by **StupidBunny** » Sat May 10, 2008 15:23

Well, Keen probably could have located Vorticon VI much more easily, since he knew the specific planet and could have maybe tapped into some kind of star chart or something. At that point, he didn't know at all where the Omegamatic was. And it's possible that, with phototachyon transception technology, it's difficult if not impossible to locate the origin of incoming phototachyons or whatever.

All just theories here.

MortimerInBlack · Post by **MortimerInBlack** » Sun May 11, 2008 15:24

You need more than one receriver picking up a signal in order to trinagulate the location of the source.

And just because his bro has a football helmit does not mean he plays football. Didn't tom say that his brother got one for Christmas as a gift?

Zero X. Diamond · Post by **Zero X. Diamond** » Mon May 12, 2008 2:10

Well, it IS a Green Bay Packers helmet, so either Keen's older brother is an all-American football hero or, seemingly more likely, he got it as a gift or some such.

Then again, his father is a famous TV personality, so who knows?

MortimerInBlack · Post by **MortimerInBlack** » Mon May 12, 2008 12:48

Then again, his father is a famous TV personality, so who knows?

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but that was only said by iD after the fact, and not within the in-game story nor anything Tom Hall said. So I think his Dad could be anything.

Post by **KeenRush** » Mon May 12, 2008 13:31

But wasn't Tom involved in Wolfenstein too, some way? He might have had influence on that.

Zero X. Diamond · Post by **Zero X. Diamond** » Tue May 13, 2008 7:09

He was, yes. He is credited in the game's credits screen as "Creative Director."

DaVince · Post by **DaVince** » Tue May 13, 2008 13:20

Stop trying to find plot inconsistencies, they're far from important in a game like Keen.

MortimerInBlack · Post by **MortimerInBlack** » Wed May 14, 2008 4:03

Well no1 said they were important. I like to find them cuz they're just interesting.