The great translation topic

StupidBunny · Post by **StupidBunny** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 16:48

Here's the font I made a few years ago for a (currently stalled) attempt at translating Commander Keen 1 into Russian. I'm in Russia now for a semester so I figured what with that and this topic it was a good time to share this.

EDIT: I just noticed I forgot to include the lowercase э. It would go where the second pair of quotation marks are.

Post by **Keening_Product** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 15:04

Looks neat, StupidBunny!

How far did you get with the project? Any tips for other translators, and will you be reviving the project any time soon?

Benvolio · Post by **Benvolio** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 19:45

Alright! So this topic has been quiet all week, but I have not been idle... life can be quite busy at times but I found time to scour Yorphius II (which as you know lacks a patch file, as all the text was hexed directly into the executable) for text, and assembled it in a word doc in English.

I then translated it crudely into German [though note the broken English of the original - I tried to translate faithfully but with proper sentence construction, subject to my ability, in the German]. Now, my german vocab is poor (Beolingus served me well) and my german grammar is poorer, so I would greatly appreciate a German speaker having a look at my work (before I put in the effort of applying it to the game), as this would not only further the project but serve as a little german lesson to myself. I would of course return the favour if relevant.

Coming soon: French.

So here's dropbox links to the files:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ksuh81o8ifgg2 ... sh_yII.doc
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzq33amlgimtz ... an_yII.doc

Also, this might be very useful so people don't have to root out all the text strings:
http://keenmodding.org/viewtopic.php?t=728

Feedback/assistance would be much appreciated! Oh, that cyrilic alphabet is really cool!! Any greeks lurking around?

Scarlet · Post by **Scarlet** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 0:43

Post by **Flaose** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 0:50

You may find the "legal" version of Yorphius II useful. It has an unpatched executable and all modifications in a patch file. Get it here: http://www.shikadi.net/wiki/files/Packs ... -03-19.zip

DoomJedi · Post by **DoomJedi** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:48

Scarlet wrote: Gde v rossiyi ti? Kak tam?

Nice Russian

Do you study it?

StupidBunny · Post by **StupidBunny** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:48

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Scarlet · Post by **Scarlet** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 22:35

Njet, imja goroda njet Peter, ima goroda est Leningrad! Skazat Piter za imja tog goroda ocjen uzasno!

Nice Russian Happy
Do you study it?

I used to and recently started to again. But I write it in latin(south slavic style), no cyrillic on the keyboard.

Post by **Keening_Product** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:48

Scarlet wrote:I used to and recently started to again. But I write it in latin(south slavic style), no cyrillic on the keyboard.

Do a translation! It would take minimal effort to plug it into Keen compared to making whole new font files!

Scarlet · Post by **Scarlet** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 22:29

Keening_Product wrote:
Scarlet wrote:I used to and recently started to again. But I write it in latin(south slavic style), no cyrillic on the keyboard.
Do a translation! It would take minimal effort to plug it into Keen compared to making whole new font files!

I write how I write, and that's that. By no means do I plan to start learning how to write russian properly. First to speak, then to write. The thing is that unlike other slavic languages... russian writing is not always the way it is pronounced.

Post by **Levellass** » Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:06

The thing is that unlike other slavic languages... russian writing is not always the way it is pronounced.

You mean other slavic languages have regular spelling? O.O

Scarlet · Post by **Scarlet** » Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:14

Levellass wrote:
The thing is that unlike other slavic languages... russian writing is not always the way it is pronounced.
You mean other slavic languages have regular spelling? O.O

Yessum. In some (or many) of them things are spelled exactly how they are pronounced.

Post by **tulip** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 16:27

Benvolio wrote:I then translated it crudely into German [though note the broken English of the original - I tried to translate faithfully but with proper sentence construction, subject to my ability, in the German]. Now, my german vocab is poor (Beolingus served me well) and my german grammar is poorer, so I would greatly appreciate a German speaker having a look at my work (before I put in the effort of applying it to the game), as this would not only further the project but serve as a little german lesson to myself. I would of course return the favour if relevant.

heh, it's sounds a bit funny when you read the translation. I can see you did want to keep some of the quirkyness of the original text, but yeah there are numerous grammatical errors (german is less forgiving than english when it comes to flection of words). I might make a detailed correction when I find the time, but not before two weeks from now.

Benvolio · Post by **Benvolio** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 13:20

thanks tulip!!!

i would be extremely grateful if you did that at some stage, both for the sake of the translation project such as it is, and also for a bit of a linguistic exercise!

maybe now's a good time to ask if anyone else has made any efforts towards making any game translations?? Obviously it's a daunting bit of work to do but well worth it for the international keening community!