Downloadable backup of KeenWiki (all pages+downloads) - idea

Post by **Keening_Product** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 13:25

Can torrent files be updated? Could easily have a few people seeding a torrent of mods broken down into individual games so people could choose to download all or as many as they like easily.

candyjack · Post by **candyjack** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 16:42

You can just wget the domain, but I don't get the point of it since there's always the Wayback machine, as well as Google Cache.

DHeadshot wrote:
tulip wrote:But downloading the whole keenwiki really only makes sense if your internet connection is really unstable. It also makes the whole reason to have a wiki useless (it's intended use is that many people work steadily on it)
Many Wikis encourage their members to download zipped versions as backups - indeed, this very thing has (for example) kept ED going throught all its domain changes.

Well, that makes more sense for ED since they constantly need to fear being taken down. Not so much for the Keen Wiki.

MoffD wrote:
DHeadshot wrote:
tulip wrote:But downloading the whole keenwiki really only makes sense if your internet connection is really unstable. It also makes the whole reason to have a wiki useless (it's intended use is that many people work steadily on it)
Many Wikis encourage their members to download zipped versions as backups - indeed, this very thing has (for example) kept ED going throught all its domain changes.
Not to be paranoid, but would that include encrypted user login information or is it purely content?

I'm not sure how / if ED restored its database after Sherrod originally took it down. I'm guessing they started over at that point, and since then they just hosted the same files elsewhere after the domain being taken down. But they obviously don't publicly provide a copy of their databases.

Post by **Flaose** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:22

lemm wrote:It would be nice if all of the keen mods could be downloaded at the press of a button.

I had been meaning to do this, but totally forgot (getting all of the mods and levels onto the shikadi.net server took a lot longer than I expected). I'll throw a package up for the three categories (Vorticons, Galaxy, Other) when I get around to it. Feel free to harass me if it's been awhile.

candyjack · Post by **candyjack** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 17:17

*harasses Flaose*

Paramultart · Post by **Paramultart** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 17:18

*harasses Flaose in a very gross way*

lemm · Post by **lemm** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 0:11

I like the idea of the yearly mod anthology that was mentioned previously.

Paramultart · Post by **Paramultart** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 21:05

The Keen newsletter should be an annual project that accompanies said mod anthology, as well as any other noteworthy events in the world of Keen.

Post by **tulip** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 21:34

which is also a thing that could be hosted on zapado

Malvineous · Post by **Malvineous** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:51

Hi all,

I did post a full copy of the KeenWiki back in September which I'd recommend you download if you want a copy of everything up until then.

I'd also like to politely ask that you don't use wget or similar to scrape every page off the wiki, because MediaWiki is a particularly big beast, and requesting hundreds of pages in quick succession like this makes the server load go through the roof. I already had to blacklist an IP address the other day because it was effectively DoSing the server by hammering it with so many requests so quickly.

Downloading the .zip archive, even if it's over 700MB, causes hardly any server load by comparison.

If there's interest I'd be happy to package up regular releases like this, however using it to play mods from oldest to newest probably isn't practical because the filenames don't have this sort of information in them - that's what the big lists of mods are for. And if you sort by the file's last modified date, you'll get to play them in the order they were uploaded to the wiki

DHeadshot · Post by **DHeadshot** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 17:53

Malvineous wrote:If there's interest I'd be happy to package up regular releases like this, however using it to play mods from oldest to newest probably isn't practical because the filenames don't have this sort of information in them - that's what the big lists of mods are for. And if you sort by the file's last modified date, you'll get to play them in the order they were uploaded to the wiki

The Release Date is generally stored in the Wiki, though. Perhaps someone can just order the big list by that and then collect up bunches into anthologies?

Post by **Flaose** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 19:38

Hey all, I've bundled up the Vorticons Mods into a nice little package available here: http://www.shikadi.net/wiki/files/Mods/ ... -02-07.zip

I like it a lot

but let me know what you think!

troublesomekeen · Post by **troublesomekeen** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 20:02

You know what? I wasn't sure if I was going to like it. I had a strange notion that the preferable thing to do was download everything separately, thereby picking what I want, and not picking what I don't want.

But I like it! It helps me a lot because I'm often so disorganized. All the Vorticon mods are in here, huh? I will have something to add to the collection before long.

troublesomekeen · Post by **troublesomekeen** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 0:59

Post Duble
I'm going through all of these to check for any errors. Soooooo many mods! I'm having trouble with Keen Universe: Aliens Ate My Homework by Stealthy71088. I get a illegal command "%ck1patch. I don't know what to do. It's probably something obvious, but can't I figure it out.

EDIT:
Oh I get it now. Bah! That moment of inspirational fix-it-fox always hits me after I foolishly post about it. Yanyways.... If someone wants to play the afore mentioned Keen mod, simply open the Batch file in Notepad and remove the percent sign ("%") and save.

Paramultart · Post by **Paramultart** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:32

tulip wrote:which is also a thing that could be hosted on zapado

This is a fabulous idea.

Also, you never replied to my email about MIDI2IMF conversions.