The biggest creature in the Keeniverse

Post by **tulip** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:24

I was just wondering: What kind of creature this could be, that provided all the claws and eyeballs. It seems the Bloogs were able to kill it.

Do you guys think, that the eyeball and the claws belong to the same creature?

ckguy · Post by **ckguy** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 13:19

Heh, I don't know. I never thought about this before. I guess I never really considered the fact that they could be part of dead creatures. The eyeballs in particular I assumed to be just some weird eyes that had evolved to hang way down from some crazy creature living in the ceiling. The hands, though, are a bit weirder, in my opinion. I don't know why, but I never really questioned them.

Do the hands show up in any levels other than the last one, by the way? I don't recall them to, but ...

StupidBunny · Post by **StupidBunny** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 15:00

The hands and eyeballs are only present in the Bloog Control Center.

I was never able to figure out a lot about Fribbulus Xax. The hands and eyeballs are only one of the many weird things that are just weird. I have the same questions about the purple stuff that seems to fill so much of the planet. It's clearly organic--it even has eyes in it--but I can't say if it has either a center or an edge. My theory is that it's some variety of organism that cannot be classed into any of the kingdoms we know. Perhaps it's a sort of intermediate between animals and fungi or something like that. But then, again...are the hands and eyeballs related, or are those from some sort of separate organism? (The idea that they're from a dead thing is intriguing; it definitely makes playing the level a little bit freakier

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Post by **KeenRush** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 15:02

Not that I can think of. Granted I don't play much Keen 6...

And interesting, never thought about that. The hands and eyes could all belong to same creature or creatures, true.

But how do we know they are dead and not only sticking their hands up from the depths?

Post by **tulip** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 15:09

I'd go with dead parts, because neither of them is moving or doing anything to keen, so what's the point reaching out of the depths with your claws if you aren't gonna use them to catch something.

Post by **KeenRush** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 18:12

What if they have just eaten and aren't hungry at the moment, but just sleeping.

Ok, I don't claim they're alive, they look like dead...

XkyRauh · Post by **XkyRauh** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 23:00

Hrmm...

While we're at it, "Bloog Control Center" could have two meanings. Is it a Control Center operated by Bloogs, or is it a Center which Controls the Bloogs? :P

I suspect that the eyeballs are bizarre lighting fixtures, and the claws are further bastardization of the Fleex's slick engineering marvels. :) Not alive, but artistic fixtures.

Commander Spleen · Post by **Commander Spleen** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 0:43

I don't recall consciously thinking it, but it seems I have this notion that the whole lot is part of one large organism that's still alive. It may have grown around the Bloog structures (whether it was planted or grows of its own accord where the land is excavated), or vice versa.

Xky wrote:I suspect that the eyeballs are bizarre lighting fixtures, and the claws are further bastardization of the Fleex's slick engineering marvels. Not alive, but artistic fixtures.

This idea intrigues me. Perhaps they even are alive (the moving eyeballs in the backgrounds suggests at least the intestine-looking stuff must be), some early stage of Fleex biological engineering. Who's to say they didn't engineer the bips later on to run their machinery (perhaps the manual, but I don't remember any direct mention of them being natives or anything)?

Is it a Control Center operated by Bloogs, or is it a Center which Controls the Bloogs?

Now there's a thought... nobody said it was necessarily the Bloogs that would eat Molly. Maybe she was an offering to their Overmind. The building has teeth, after all. If that was the case, the fact that it's on the space station indicates that it wasn't always so. Could it have been an experiment gone haywire? Or did the Fleex decide their planet needed a more evolved leader?

ckguy · Post by **ckguy** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:04

Hahaha, you guys are great. Bunch of awesome ideas.

PS, happy birthday Spleen!

Genius314 · Post by **Genius314** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:17

Hmm... yes, the Bloogs do seem more like servants than anything.
After all, the Fleex designed everything, so why would the Bloogs control it?

Maybe the Bloog in the title screen is just seasoning Keen before serving him to his master?

This adds a lot more depth to the story, and even a potential final boss (in case anyone wants to make a 3d Keen 6?

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Post by **tulip** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:26

Yeah, there are some great ideas here.
After all the parts don't look like rotten flesh, they look rather fresh and clean, so the manufacturing idea fits in well.

Roobar · Post by **Roobar** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 18:27

I think of them like monuments. Or just part of the decoration.

Malvineous · Post by **Malvineous** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 22:03

I always thought the eyes were some kind of security cameras...they are eyes, after all

I wonder if the purple stuff is related to the purple walls in the secret level of Wolf3D episode one?

MortimerInBlack · Post by **MortimerInBlack** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 0:41

I protest. The biggest creature in the KEENiverse can only be the giant purple space amoeba that powers the tantalus rays aboard the Vorticon Mothership.

Post by **tulip** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:09

Well, it's only one tile in size. The tantalus ray is powered by cells of the amoeba and and an amoeba is a creature that has only one cell. So each of those purple sparks is a big purple space amoeba.

I don't second the opinion that the space amoeba is multicelled like it's written in KeenWiki.