Keen Dreams somehow makes it to Nintendo Switch

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Re: Keen Dreams somehow makes it to Nintendo Switch

Post by Gridlock » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:03

Wow, that's neat to see Tom engaging with fans like that. Most game devs I know like to keep more distance (for understandable reasons). I guess it's neat to see Keen Dreams released on Switch. I don't know that I'd buy it for that price, though I am curious about how it runs and controls.
The thing is we can pull all of our resources together to make a game for Steam or maybe even Switch if it gets that far. In all seriousness, I believe wholeheartedly that we could pull it off.
It would be great to see a Keen-like revival. It's something I've wanted for a long time, and I'll certainly keep my eyes open for any opportunities. Sadly, it's not something that I see having an easy path to getting made. I imagine that it would be very hard to convince a publisher to fund a project inspired by a largely-forgotten IP from the 90s (especially if it's a 2D platformer... that's a genre that's at the breaking point of oversatutation). As a fan project, it's not impossible... but the odds of a project like that reaching the finish line are really slim. Without funding to fuel the game development engine, it's just impractical to ask people to put in the effort of a full-time job for years with no compensation, especially when there are a lot of technical and business hurdles involved. Even indie games are often made by teams of many people working full time, sometimes over the course of many years. As a side note, porting to Switch basically requires that you get your company/project approved by Nintendo so that they send you dev kits.
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Re: Keen Dreams somehow makes it to Nintendo Switch

Post by jayo » Tue Mar 05, 2019 22:24

Roobar wrote:
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It seems that it started all the way back in 2003 http://www.shikadi.net/keenwiki/Command ... munity_Mod :O
Speaking of the Wiki, could somebody please address this...?

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Re: Keen Dreams somehow makes it to Nintendo Switch

Post by Mobiethian » Thu Mar 07, 2019 13:55

I dunno, I'm just not liking the lack of optimism for a Keen revival made by us. The Sonic Mania team did it! And they were just fans like us from around the world. Why couldn't we do the same to Keen? All hope is lost there apparently. I mean c'mon, lots of people know about Commander Keen.

I just mainly want to say this.. the forum should just be renamed to Public Commander Keen Modding Forum. Because that's just about all you guys do here! Seriously, if some of you can put such amazing skills towards something that could be made for to Steam or something really neat like Switch it's worth it!

Having said such, I'll probably make myself absent from this forum indefinitely. I tried to work with some of you, but you're all just "too busy" for me. Kind regards, I'm out. :dead2

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Re: Keen Dreams somehow makes it to Nintendo Switch

Post by Lunick » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:24

Mobiethian wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 13:55
I dunno, I'm just not liking the lack of optimism for a Keen revival made by us. The Sonic Mania team did it! And they were just fans like us from around the world. Why couldn't we do the same to Keen? All hope is lost there apparently. I mean c'mon, lots of people know about Commander Keen.
It's not just "by the fans". It was lead by someone who had already developed 3 ports for SEGA. Zenimax has no interest in a Commander Keen revival.

If you want to see something happen then stop expecting others to do so.
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I just mainly want to say this.. the forum should just be renamed to Public Commander Keen Modding Forum. Because that's just about all you guys do here! Seriously, if some of you can put such amazing skills towards something that could be made for to Steam or something really neat like Switch it's worth it!
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Re: Keen Dreams somehow makes it to Nintendo Switch

Post by troublesomekeen » Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:51

szemi wrote:
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You always had problems like "I'm moving to a new place, I'm depressed, etc."
^That has been my keening experience, too. You describe it very well. That's just how it is for some people. Nothing to get angry over. This is completely normal. There's a lot of frustration because there are so many great ideas. We have the knowledge, the power, the tools to make keen dreams come true. It's as Nisaba said before: many of us are loners and find it incredibly difficult to collaborate, or to work at a satisfactory pace.

It's alright if your ideas are never realized into a project, and it's okay if your project is never completed. Everyone has a different way of keening and not all goals can be reached. :smokin
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Re: Keen Dreams somehow makes it to Nintendo Switch

Post by Fleexy » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:41

4 posts got pretty heated and were removed. The text TsK quoted was in one of them, in case people are wondering where that came from. I think TsK's response is very well put :)

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Re: Keen Dreams somehow makes it to Nintendo Switch

Post by Keening_Product » Tue Mar 19, 2019 13:57

I agree, sensible comments from TsK. Deep breaths everyone - it's just a small forum about a franchise which has been dead on PC for almost 30 years. (Which reminds me, Keen did get a handheld console release on the GBC - how did that do commercially?)
Mobiethian wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 13:55
The forum should just be renamed to Public Commander Keen Modding Forum.
In case Mobiethian hasn't stormed out forever, or someone else reading this doesn't know, here's a fun fact: this forum has a modding-focussed twin! You will find Keen: Modding at https://keenmodding.org/

I'll say this though: don't go there expecting everyone to drop their lives, jobs, and personal projects to work with you. Go to K:M (and/or here, depending on whether you just want to mod or if you want to create an all-new game. Feel free to talk about either here too, given the PCKF's active community is larger.) with at very least a vision and a rough plan. Lay out your ideas for a new game, don't just make vague comments about the idea of making one. Start discussion on how it should look and play. Just take stewardship of your idea and lead.

Only you can prevent forest fires... I mean lead creation of your ideal Keen-inspired Switch game.
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Re: Keen Dreams somehow makes it to Nintendo Switch

Post by keenmaster486 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 16:19

I've been trying to start development on a new Keen-inspired DOS game for years... :pogo
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