Commander Keen in: No Sense of Perspective

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Post by Levellass »

The candy is in defence tunnel Teln, above a door. I have added two bugs and screenshots to the page. If nobody wants to add the others, then I will.

http://www.shikadi.net/keenwiki/Keen_5_Bugs
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I've made this bug happen only once to my memory, in the Korath III base. I didn't know it could only happen in certain spots...
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Hmmmmn, then maybe it can happen another way? It needs further investigation.
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There's another undocumented Keen 5 bug I've found in the same level. (Yes, I'm stuck there. :P) If I'm on the second slope to the right of the starting location and position Keen so his ankles are just to the right of the edge, they bury themselves into the floor:
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And if Keen jumps straight up, once he lands he teleports slightly to the left:
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Odd, eh?
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Hmm. It seems that this level hasn't been tested much :).
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It is, from what I can tell from TED5, a general bug based on a ground tile's tileinfo. There are probably other areas it occurs.
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Re: Commander Keen in: No Sense of Perspective

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Deltamatic wrote:I was toying around in the Armageddon Machine, and look what came my way:
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I had been pogoing around the area, and caught the pole mid-jump.
Has this happened to anybody else? Or have I discovered a new bug?
I too have had this happen in numerous places including the first level and even when you jump into walls to collect bonuses. I believe I was using cheats at the time such as jump cheat and god mode. I was worried the game was broken (this was back in my childhood years) but it went away the next time I played. So I was happy
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Shilor, your avatar is amazing. :drool
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Post by Shilor »

lol thanks DaVince. I used to feel pretty lame when I dressed up as Keen but no more. I'm very proud now. :D
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Indeed, it is brilliant. What we really need is a "Dress as Keen' competition, possibly for halloween.
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Post by Fleexy »

I did that last year, with little marbles for flower power, "GOODBYE GALAXY" on a pink shirt, a 'K' flag, and a belt with keygems on it. :dopekeen

I have a picture. :crazy
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Yet another Keen 5 bug: If you pogo slowly to the right starting from just to the left of the first slope above your starting position in the Neutrino Burst Injector, you'll find yourself teleporting.
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Mink wrote:That's pretty neat. I can't believe I never noticed that.

And while we're discussing perspective, is it just me, or does Keen seem to be at the wrong angle when facing left?
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I'm no expert at perspective, but shouldn't his right side be farther back than his left, thus making his back more visible than his front? As it is, he seems to rotated towards the camera rather than facing left. Has this been brought up before, or am I crazy?
Darn! I can never un-see that now!
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Mirrored sprites, lazyness at its best.
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Post by Grimson »

Mirrored sprites, lazyness at its best.
They did fix the lighting...

I don't see any other way to do Keen, really. If his perspective would be what you think correct, we would only see his back, and I doubt he would be watching at the player when in such pose. I don't know, but that would definitely look weird.
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