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Post by Commander Keen » Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:41

I would suggest that on Keen 8, the sounds for the level entering/exiting, gun picking uping, etc be updated to match Keen 9's sounds. Also, the DOS screen when you quit should be updated to make it match 9's DOS screen.

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Post by Pokota » Wed Nov 09, 2011 20:47

Well, if nothing else, I can get to where I presume is halfway through Lava Lake now ^^;

Strangely though, I think one of the shortfall goplats disappeared on my when my back was turned. I'll see if I can't replicate this one; does anyone know if the idle animations screw up goplats?
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Post by jayo » Thu Nov 10, 2011 18:18

I found a few things that need to be addressed in the revised Keen 8:

-In most of the demos, Keen gets himself killed! And in one, he keeps clinging to the right end of the level, and shoots repeatedly towards it though there's nothing there.

-In the demos, the High score screen is played in a second time, with all the entries on the scoreboard blank.

-In the story text crawl, the last 2 lines are:
or be left...
dead in the Desert!

Whereas it should be:
or be left...

"Dead in the Desert!"

-Also, that screen just shows blank space, it should probably display the entire planet of Calidune.

-The opening in that crawl is
Episode VIII
Dead in the Desert

It should be:

Episode Eight

Dead in the Desert

-After you quit, you get a large, blank splash screen only saying "Thanks for playing..." You could add a bit more there...

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Post by T-Squared » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:47

I found a glitch in the new version of Episode 9... o_o

I used no clipping to get to the Warpcore, then turned it off, then turned on god mode.

I used the B-A-T cheat to get 99 shots (which in retrospect I didn't need...).

Mortimer shot at one of the cores, and the game immediately ended to the outro story. (As if you had accidentally tagged the core to what was originally coded as the QED.)

EDIT: Scratch that. I think I know what happened. When I turned on god mode, the game glitched when Keen touched a core. (The game didn't know what to do when invincible Keen touched what would normally kill him.)
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Post by Bubbatom » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:05

Well this may be a bug but it's easily avoided... Don't use god mode. :p
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Post by jayo » Sat Nov 12, 2011 21:02

I think, rather than that "See you next time..." screen in the ending, Keen 8 should have another "to be continued..." splash screen like in Keen 4 and 7.

And Keen 7 has a chocolate bar as a points item, too much like the candy bar in Keen 4, I suggest replacing it with a pretzel or an ice cream sandwich...

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Post by Eros » Sun Nov 13, 2011 23:48

in a bunch of the spots in K8 the Boulder level, cobrits randomly attacked from the skies, i would've died many times had i not used got mode to see the changes you made.
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Post by Keeper » Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:53

Beta testing... yummy!

I am going to take a look at these Betas this afternoon. I'll keep my eyes wide open for anything unusual :dopekeen

I wasn't expecting to see a K8 beta so soon, with all the discussion about revising K7. This was a pleasant surprise.

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Post by Pokota » Mon Nov 14, 2011 13:53

I think that we're getting 9 and 8 fixes first because they're mostly just game fixes and not also cosmetic adjustments.
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Post by Keeper » Mon Nov 14, 2011 16:54

I have a small complaint about UNLZEXE.

The original release of K9 included a .BAT file that did the whole procedure. That was quick and easy to use.

The latest Beta, however, does not include the .BAT file. And the really sloppy thing is that the Read Me does not include instructions on how to use this program either (and I've never used it before).

Therefore, I suggest that you always include the .BAT file in the .zip archive, or at least provide detailed instructions on how to use UNLZEXE in the Read Me file.

Thanks :dopekeen

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Post by Ceilick » Mon Nov 14, 2011 23:00

Been distracted with Skyrim 8)
Commander Keen wrote:I would suggest that on Keen 8, the sounds for the level entering/exiting, gun picking uping, etc be updated to match Keen 9's sounds. Also, the DOS screen when you quit should be updated to make it match 9's DOS screen.
Just like Keen's 4-6 each have unique entering/exiting sounds, I plan to do the same here. Currently the original Keen 8 sounds are used, so I may modify them slightly. I may add the neural stunner sound from keen 9, although I do like having the exotic keen 6 sounding one for this episode.

I will update the DOS exit screen, thanks for pointing that out.
Pokota wrote:Strangely though, I think one of the shortfall goplats disappeared on my when my back was turned.
This happens sometimes when you stand on a goplat that drops for too long. I don't know what causes it.

@Jayo:

-I'll try to fix the demos, although this can be really annoying since demo playback has an annoying way of not playing the same way it's recorded.

-Will fix the scrolling story line

-The problem with a scrolling story image is that only certain colors can be used and none of them match the desert look of the planet. I may be able to patch this, but even then, part of game is not knowing what lies ahead on Calidune and a planetary image might be too revealing.

@T-Squared: this is a known side effect of how the level was patched. The solution, as Bubbatom pointed out, is not to cheat :P
Jayo wrote:I think, rather than that "See you next time..." screen in the ending, Keen 8 should have another "to be continued..." splash screen like in Keen 4 and 7.
I can try to do this, although Keen 6 only has 3 story images to work with, so it may mean either Keen flying away from Calidune in the imposter's ship or the static screen are removed.

@Keeper:
The setup file is supposed to still be in there, I don't know how it was removed.

I'll try to make these things happen in the next week or so. Thanks for the feedback so far, guys!

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Post by Keeper » Mon Nov 14, 2011 23:17

Hey - it's no rush. Just make sure it's ready for Christmas :begging

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Post by Keeper » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:20

Ok, here are some small problems I found in K9:



1. On the first page of the "Story" section, second sentence, there is a repeated word.

"But after braving the dangers of of the planet..."


2. I noticed something unusual at the end of the opening text crawl - check this screenshot. Is this a bug?


3. A glitch on the world map - the elevator to the Krodacian Overlabs. When you ride it downwards, it immediately sends you back up again (i.e. it doesn't let you move away from it). When you use the elevator a second time, it works correctly, though.



As for K8, the only thing I've noticed is the inconsistency in the text crawl - it says "Episode VIII", not "Episode Eight". But this has already been mentioned in this thread, so... :dopekeen

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Post by jayo » Wed Nov 16, 2011 14:48

Keeper wrote: 3. A glitch on the world map - the elevator to the Krodacian Overlabs. When you ride it downwards, it immediately sends you back up again (i.e. it doesn't let you move away from it). When you use the elevator a second time, it works correctly, though.
Yeah, we've mentioned that already, too! He can't seem to find a way to fix that.

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Post by Keeper » Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:37

I found yet another of those strange grey dots in Fort Yetisburg.

What are these, anyway?


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