What cheats should a mod have?

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What cheats should a mod have?

Post by Levellass » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:05

The title says it all. What sort of cheats would be nice to have in a mod? A recent project (Keen 11) is forcing me to fiddle cheat code space and I'm curious as to what people would like as cheats.
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Post by BlueGasMask » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:11

A Konami code that allows you to change your skin to a Vorticon. :V

For real though, if one is playtesting, an invincibility code is usually pretty handy. I don't know how possible that would be, though; it's been years since I was into this stuff.
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Post by szemi » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:17

I'm working on Keen 11 as well as I'm the 'project manager' of this mod. :)
Yeah, piece of cake!

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Post by joe-ilya » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:08

The galaxy trilogy already has cheats, or are you modding for the previous trilogy? Or possibly looking to put new cheats? :confused
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Post by VikingBoyBilly » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:10

The fall through the floor cheat.
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Post by troublesomekeen » Thu Jul 30, 2015 19:08

joe-ilya wrote:The galaxy trilogy already has cheats, or are you modding for the previous trilogy? Or possibly looking to put new cheats?
Cheats take up a certain space that is needed for Levellass to achieve game-altering results. Therefore, the cheats must be disabled or rewritten for other purposes.

Bleh. I dunno. Aside from testing, cheats are for those who don't have the time or opportunity to sit down, relax and play the game for real.
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Post by Fleexy » Thu Jul 30, 2015 19:12

I think the most useful one is the warp cheat, since invincibility is trivial to apply as a patch. I would also appreciate a new "cheat" that dumps the game's entire address space into a file.

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Post by Levellass » Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:48

Address space? So far I just have the game dump its data segment as a saved game.

BlueGasMask wrote:A Konami code that allows you to change your skin to a Vorticon. :V
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I... I can do that.

joe-ilya wrote:The galaxy trilogy already has cheats, or are you modding for the previous trilogy? Or possibly looking to put new cheats? :confused
Yep, new cheats in addition to those already enabled. There's room for a lot of extra cheats.
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Post by BlueGasMask » Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:59

Levellass wrote:
BlueGasMask wrote:A Konami code that allows you to change your skin to a Vorticon. :V
<.<

>.>

I... I can do that.
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Post by szemi » Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:39

I have an idea for a cheat. Floating: F10+F.

If you press these buttons, Keen or Mart stops in the air, but if you turn this cheat off, they fall down.

Message would be: "Floating mode ON" / "Floating mode OFF"
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Post by Commander Spleen » Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:25

Unlimited lives, if it is not already implemented by default in the mod. Or at least +1 life. Always sucked having to F10+I for ages to have this effect. Mainly for introducing younger kids to the game without having to save/load for them every game over.

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Post by joe-ilya » Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:53

A cheat where you walk faster and a cheat where you jump higher.
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Post by mortimer » Fri Jul 31, 2015 13:28

joe-ilya wrote:a cheat where you jump higher.
Wouldn't that be F10 + J?
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Post by Roobar » Fri Jul 31, 2015 15:49

So new cheats beyond the existing ones? Ok, some cheats that might crash the game:

1. Cheat that adds random enemy(ies) when in-level.
2. Cheat that adds random pick up items in the level.
3. Cheat that adds Dopefish in the level.
4. Cheat that turns you into a Dopefish.
5. Cheat that inverse the colors.
6. Cheat that removes all the enemies.
7. Cheat that allows you to see through foreground walls that are otherwise supposed to be secret rooms or remove them.
8. Cheat that turns Keen twice as big.
9. Cheat that shrinks Keen half.
10. Cheat that changes difficulty of the game while in the game.
11. Cheat that plays "You've Got to Eat Your Vegetables".
12. Cheat that plays random music.
13. Cheat that makes farting noise.
14. Cheat that makes Keen making farting noises each time he jumps.
15. Cheat that resets all finished levels back to unfinished.
16. Cheat that makes Keen show his ass.
17. Cheat that allows you to wall jump.
18. Cheat that makes paddle war easier by expanding your pad.
19. Cheat that allows you to see in 3D by wearing 3D glasses lol.
20. Cheat that turns Keen into Sanic and he's super fast.
21. Cheat that allows you to jump over enemies to stunn them.
22. Cheat that allows you to kill enemies by using pogo stick.
23. Cheat that replaces your pogo stick with rocket with which you can jump fly much higher, but still limited by the fuel.
24. Cheat that runs chess game.
25. Cheat that turn the game into either RPG, MMORPG, FPS or RTS.
26. Cheat that displays message "I dont care", or "All Your Base Are Belong To Us", or "You're a cheater!", or "The Dopefish Lives!" or something else.
27. Cheat that changes the starting screen with something else.
28. Cheat that enable game's console with ~
29. Cheat that teleports Keen on random place.
30. Cheat that freezes enemies.
31. Cheat that shows a picture of Levellass.
32. Cheat that convert all SGA letters into Latin letters.
33. Cheat that turns the lights off/on.
34. Cheat that makes all platforms slippery.
35. Cheat that resolves world hunger, pollution etc.
36. Cheat that makes enemies re-spawn after a short amount of time (like 2-3 minutes). Also ammo re-spawning.
37. Cheat that decreases your score or/and ammo.
38. Cheat that gives you BFG9000.
39. Cheat that makes enemies to take twice many shots to be killed.
40. Cheat that makes immortal enemies mortal.

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Post by Levellass » Sat Aug 01, 2015 0:03

Well well well now, that's more like it! A large number of those i can do! Indeed I already have a color changing cheat.
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