3D Commander Keen Game

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would a 3d version of commander keen destory the classic spirit of the series that is commander keen?

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3D Commander Keen Game

Post by Rorie » Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:07

a while ago someone was trying to design a 3d version of commander keen 4. as djaser & the other original members from the ezboard board can recall i was dismissing it by repeatedly saying it would destroy the classic spirit of the offical dos games (i don't think it would now even if tom hall actually wrote a new keen game). i am sure the original members can dig up the ezboard topics i probably could but i am a lazy bugger. as for the new members of this board i want to ask the same question i did all those years ago. vote yes or no in the poll titled would a 3d version of commander keen destory the classic spirit of the series that is commander keen. i would love to hear your opinion
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Post by Roobar » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:50

Yes, 3D will destroy CK if they make it like the unreleased Jazz 3. No, if they make it like Bionic Commando Rearmed. Actually, if they make it like BCR, Keen might once again become popular.

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Post by Djaser » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:33

Pff, there are plenty of 3d platformers out there that are true to the spirit of Commander Keen.
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Post by tulip » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:14

It certainly is a difficult situation to make a cartoony, 2d, EGA-coloured Platformer a nice 3d game.
3D games mostly are less colorful, tend to be less funny, more realistic (through atmosphere). But I think if you want to keep the original atmosphere in 3D it is possible.
Graphics like the Gamecube Zelda could be an idea (it is 3D but still looky comicy...)

Anyway, I don't think anything could destroy the Original Keen games. If it's bad it will inevitably be excluded from the Keeniverse by the true fans.
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Post by memsys » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:29

yea look at keen gbc :disguised
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Post by KeenRush » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:34

tulip wrote:Anyway, I don't think anything could destroy the Original Keen games. If it's bad it will inevitably be excluded from the Keeniverse by the true fans.
Heh, indeed, good point. :) I don't think TUIT will (yes, it shall come!) affect the old games, it won't make them worse or destroy their spirit, but it's a different question how 3D is going to work with it. But I think it will work pretty well. Before I was against it going to be 3D, but nowadays I think it could get rather interesting, at least as long as Tom is making it.
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Post by Commander Spleen » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:42

djaser wrote:Pff, there are plenty of 3d platformers out there that are true to the spirit of Commander Keen.
Care to name a few? No 3D game I've played so far has come off to me as Keenish.

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Post by Djaser » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:08

Commander Spleen wrote:
djaser wrote:Pff, there are plenty of 3d platformers out there that are true to the spirit of Commander Keen.
Care to name a few? No 3D game I've played so far has come off to me as Keenish.

I suppose that depends on what see as Keenish. For me it are games set in colorful alien worlds who feature lots of humor and cartoon like creatures. The game should consist of smooth game play with a variation of combat and simple puzzles.
If you would agree on than the Ratchet and Clank series is definitely a must. The main protagonists are much like Keen, flying in spaceships from planet to planet battling evil alien masterminds.
I also liked the Jak series. The two later games might have become a little bit too dark and serious but the first installment took a place in a world that isn't that much different from the Shadowlands.
Rayman 2 and 3 are also worth checking out for similar reasons.
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Post by tulip » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:28

I agree on the rayman series,

I never heard about Ratchet and Clank before because I'm only using a PC and I never owned a Playstation, but indeed these Screenshots look like a 3d Keen could look like...
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Post by Commander Spleen » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:47

I've heard of Ratchet & Clank and Rayman, but haven't played them. I'll check out the three titles you suggest.

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Post by memsys » Sun Oct 12, 2008 15:14

Ratchet & Clank and Rayman are both 3d fantasy platformers
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Post by Djaser » Sun Oct 12, 2008 19:01

That's good Spleen, let me know what you think of them.
memsys wrote:Ratchet & Clank and Rayman are both 3d fantasy platformers
How's that different from what I said?
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Post by Lava89 » Sun Oct 12, 2008 22:28

Rorie, are you talking about if a Keen fangame was made in 3D? Or if it was made officially? Or both?

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Post by memsys » Mon Oct 13, 2008 0:32

both i guess...
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Post by GoldenRishi » Mon Oct 27, 2008 20:28

Rayman 2 (and partially 3) is by far the best example of a 2D platformer series converted into a 3D masterpiece. I have to say, Rayman II has got to be the best video game I've ever played.

People complain that Keen would never look good in 3D, but those people seriously lack imagination. Nearly all things are possible in the gaming universe, not least of which is modifying old ideas into new ones.
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