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I have beaten Keen Asylum on easy and very soon I am going to start playing on normal. I did have one question for anyone who may know. My question is concerning Level 7 called Wild. At the beginning of the level there is a shaft which shows arrows pointing up, but all there is in the shaft is a dropping Goplat, which certainly cannot take you up. Is it actually possible to go up and play the rest of the level, or is this just a tease?

Patrick

If I remember correct you have to shoot up while dropping with the goplat or something like that, there was some strange trick that gets you up. Or possibly holding a down key or up key or something. But if I'm thinking of the same level then there definitely is a way up.

KeenRush wrote:If I remember correct you have to shoot up while dropping with the goplat or something like that, there was some strange trick that gets you up. Or possibly holding a down key or up key or something. But if I'm thinking of the same level then there definitely is a way up.

You were right! The "strange trick" is actually the Impossible Bullet Trick in Keen 6. How is this possible in Keen 5??? Don't most Keeners consider the Impossible Bullet cheating?

Yup, it's the impossible bullet trick, I didn't know you knew the name. Yeah, it's cheating to me but not in this particular spot in which it's meant to be used -- no idea how they achieved that in the level, though!

KeenRush wrote:Yup, it's the impossible bullet trick, I didn't know you knew the name. Yeah, it's cheating to me but not in this particular spot in which it's meant to be used -- no idea how they achieved that in the level, though!

Yes, I do know the name. I may be new to the Keen Community, but I am not new to the Commander Keen games. However, I am sure there are still a few things here and there about Keen I still can learn, especially with all these new mods and levelpacks out. Many of these authors have been coming up with some new graphics and tricks that are pretty cool. Hopefully one day I will get to experience most of these mods and levelpacks in their entirety.

Patrick

Sure, IB (Impossible Bullet) is possible in keens 4, 5, and 6. Any time keen rides a falling goplat that doesn't have a stopping info tile, keen will stop falling at the first solid tile he reaches (assuming there is one), but the goplat will drop off the screen. At this point, you can shoot up, and keen will fly. You can do this in the first level of keen 4, in the underground hidden area with all the lives.

I thought this was common knowledge by now...

The IB trick is, but most associate it with Keen 6, where you can trigger the FullCliptoWalls error by landing on one of Keen's shots. There are literally dozens of errors in Keen 4-6, few of which I have seen on the Keenwiki. I would add them, but I never get around to it.

Aren't most of the bugs in Keen 4-6 in Keen 6 only? I've noticed so many more in Keen 6 than in 4 and 5 combined.

As of 14:09 today, an edit was made at the KeenWiki. It now shows Dr. Witherstone as the author of Keen Asylum. Before the edit, it showed BrIck as the author. On DosClassics and CK Guy's site The bipship, they also show Br1ck as the author of Keen Asylum. So which one really created this levelpack? Dr. Witherstone, Br1ck or both?

They're brothers, and if I remember correct they both worked on it.

KeenRush wrote:They're brothers, and if I remember correct they both worked on it.

I see. Thank you for clearing up the misunderstanding.

I have begun playing Keen Asylum on normal. So far I have only beaten a few levels, Intro, Rocket, Wild, and Sparky Home. Right now I am stuck on The Tower of Secrets and Mortillery because I keep on making stupid mistakes.