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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:33
by Syllypryde
I just completed all the levels for Aliens Vs Keen but the game will NOT end!!! WTF???

I also ran into a similar problem with Zapping the Zot. In one of the levels, I destroy the "Tantalus Ray" and go to the exit, but in the scoreboard it does not show I destroyed that ray, regardless of how many times I beat the level! Then when I complete all 16 levels and destroy all 8 rays, the game will not end because it thinks I have only destroyed 7 rays!!! Again, WTF??? :dead2

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:10
by tulip
I don't know if my memory plays tricks on me, but I think I was able to beat the Zot and saw the ending, but I'm not too sure anymore, because Ceilicks old mods all have some small flaws.
You might try starting a new game, godmoding through all the levels, sometimes if you loose a life in a certain level that might take away a done goal again. I know for sure that happens in many Keen1 mods with the 4 items, if you loose a life in the wrong level that item is gone and you'll never get it back. Might also happen in Keen2. You'll have to save and when you loose a life load your game again.

The problem with Aliens vs. Keen is well known, and the ending patch doesn't work most of the time. So you gotta run error.bat start a new game and finish the first level, then you'll see the ending.

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 0:10
by Lava89
This thread is anti-climatic.

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:43
by Genius314
Slightly on-topic: Anyone think that the ending of Keen 3 was anti-climactic? They built it up, as if it was going to be this big surprise, and then... It turns out that the Grand Intellect is a character that wasn't mentioned until that very moment. I mean, if he had some mention anywhere else in the story or something, it'd be somewhat more surprising.

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:46
by KeenRush
I have to admit I was somewhat let down by it. Mortimer didn't seem very menacing.

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:39
by StupidBunny
The thing that I always wonder is why a kid with a 315 IQ can't come up with an insult better than "Commander Clown." Seriously.

But yeah, I had always thought that the Keen 3 ending would have been more effective if the Grand Intellect had been some character we had known about before. It's not very powerful when Keen shows up and reveals the Intellect to be somebody we had never heard of. The character needs to have appeared before, and given us a reason to be shocked and (possibly) outraged at his identity.

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:02
by Syllypryde
I think what the creators were going for, as far as shock, was not for us to find the identity of the Grand Intellect shocking, but for Keen to. Keen most likely assumed the Grand Intellect would be some alien in some far off galaxy. So it was probably a shock to him that the GI was actually human. Once the ending is revealed in Keen 3, Keen was again shocked that not only was the GI a child, but happened to be Mortimer McMire. Despite the fact his IQ is one point higher, and he liked to bully Keen, he probably never dreamed Mortimer hated the entire universe as much as he supposedly hates Keen.

Keen might have assumed the Grand Intellect would be as easy to defeat as the Vorticons. But upon realizing he was dealing with his childhood nemesis, the shock Keen feels is from knowing not only is his prime enemy formidable, but also that Keen might not be able to stop him. Now we all know Keen is confident he will succeed, but he is also smart enough to realize there is a chance he could fail. Then all he knows and loves will forever be gone!


Edit: After 17 years, there is still no end to the fight between Billy Blaze and Mortimer Mcmire. Talk about anti-climatic!!!