Zoltan's revenge HEEELLLLP!

Post by **Levellass** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 18:02

Ok people, it's official, my brain is running on empty. (20 hour shifts will do that to you.) I need to parasitize your brains for a bit. Basically, I'm asking for ideas.

Currently I'm working on a factory, and I need ideas for mechanical, factory things to add to my tileset.

So, does anyone have any suggestions?

_mr_m_ · Post by **_mr_m_** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 18:22

Conveyor belts, mechanical gears, robotic apparatus stuff, shifty supervisors..boxes/crates. That kinda stuff.

Just throwing it out there.

shikadi · Post by **shikadi** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 18:43

might help.

_mr_m_ · Post by **_mr_m_** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 18:54

Actually, i could just mail you one of my university textbooks...lotsa pictures in there you could use...or find it in e-book form somewhere.

Mechanics of Solids, 7th Ed. by R.C Hibbeler.

Lotsa good pictures and diagrams that should help.

PS-I abhor that book.

Deltamatic · Post by **Deltamatic** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:30

Robot arms welding parts together with sparks flying off them.
Vats of molten metal, blast furnaces, vats of rippling quicksilver, vats of hydrochloric acid, vats of radioactive sludge, all large, multi-tile deals.
Tubes and pipes twisting in all directions and threading through each other at tortuous right angles.
Various forms of cooling--fans (from one-tile to huge), liquid nitrogen towers, radiators extending into space [if it's space-based].
Security cameras, lasers scanning products for quality control.
Ventilation shafts, perhaps with tendrils of noxious gases going through them.
Control consoles, maybe high-tech with lots of graphics, maybe not so high-tech with text outputs (blue, green, amber, red text... depends on your color scheme), or maybe a bit more steampunk-ish with old-fashioned oven timer-type readouts, or lots of levers and typewriter-style buttons on your control consoles.
Automated hammers and large anvils.
Fountains and waterfalls of molten metal in the background, just 'cause.

Post by **tulip** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 19:13

Fountains and waterfalls of molten metal in the background, just 'cause.

And maybe a melting Terminator...

Post by **Levellass** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:04

Conveyor belts, mechanical gears, robotic apparatus stuff, shifty supervisors..boxes/crates. That kinda stuff.

First stuff I did.

Mechanics of Solids, 7th Ed. by R.C Hibbeler.

No help at all, my mind isn't set up to examine the world and pull ideas from it (That's LL) I need my ideas spoon fed to me in the form of keyword and such. Same thing goes for photographs of stuff.

Deltamatic: Brilliant! That may actually be all the ideas I need!

Deltamatic · Post by **Deltamatic** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:06

Thanks!
Just out of curiosity, what mod is this for?

Post by **tulip** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:11

The full version of this one: http://www.tl-dr.org/downloads/keen/mod ... _place.zip

Syllypryde · Post by **Syllypryde** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 15:22

tulip wrote:The full version of this one: http://www.tl-dr.org/downloads/keen/mod ... _place.zip

I have tried to play these Keen 4 mini-mods but cannot. When I try to load the game it says I have an unrecognizable version of Keen4E.exe, even after I have Unlzexed it. What would the problem be?

Post by **tulip** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 20:41

I know it has to be a version 1.4. If it is and you still can't get it running, you can PM me your email and I'll send you my folder with everything set up and working (at least for me)

Post by **Levellass** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:59

Good on ya, Tulip! It's nice to have a helping hand for these sort of things. What we need is a universal patcher, to patch any edition of Keen to any other, I'm thinking about it.

Post by **Levellass** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:32

Another point which I need an opinion and advice on;

I am including an exhaustive help file with my mod; this at present contains a section detailing all enemies in the mod and some tricks in dealing with them. However, this rather does ruin some surprises, so I'm wondering if I should. The options I'm considering at present are,

* As-is, a help section with pictures and hints about everything

* A help section with hints, no pictures

* Remove the section entirely and put the hints in a separate HINTS document

As modders, I do wonder what people would prefer. (It actually took me a long time to find the help in Keen 4, I was not an aware girl.) and I ask your input on this.

_mr_m_ · Post by **_mr_m_** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 20:12

Personally, I would keep with the consistency of the real games when it comes to dealing with the enemies. I got a good thrill of not knowing what to expect from the official games and Ceilick's TUIT mods.

I would choose option 1; leave the help section as is, with pictures and minimal hints/information given. Use your discretion in what you want us to know.

KeenEmpire · Post by **KeenEmpire** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 20:27

Wasn't Zoltran that guy from the fan movie?