A New Dope

Post by **Fleexy** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 16:14

I just completed the third hardest mod without cheats. Well, mostly without. I used cheats to quickly get to/from the space station.

Cause the Messie ride is annoying.

I completed with 0 lives, 85100 points, 11 levels completed (in levels with lots of IQ, I collected a few stashes, died, collected, died...), and 315 IQ. The ending was really annoying becuase I collected two IQ at a time for my last collection, but the ending said 314! >: I deserve a proper ending!

Syllypryde · Post by **Syllypryde** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 17:43

Fleexy wrote:I just completed the third hardest mod without cheats. Well, mostly without. I used cheats to quickly get to/from the space station. Cause the Messie ride is annoying. I completed with 0 lives, 85100 points, 11 levels completed (in levels with lots of IQ, I collected a few stashes, died, collected, died...), and 315 IQ. The ending was really annoying becuase I collected two IQ at a time for my last collection, but the ending said 314! >: I deserve a proper ending!

Right now I have 9 levels complete. I do not remember my score offhand, but I have 2 lives and 264IQ.

Genius314 · Post by **Genius314** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 17:48

I was able to complete A New Dope pretty quickly... I think Smile is MUCH harder.

VikingBoyBilly · Post by **VikingBoyBilly** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 17:59

Genius314 wrote:I was able to complete A New Dope pretty quickly... I think Smile is MUCH harder.

which is why he referred to A New Dope as the third hardest mod. They're both bloody unplayable if you ask me

Genius314 · Post by **Genius314** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 19:28

VikingBoyBilly wrote:which is why he referred to A New Dope as the third hardest mod. They're both bloody unplayable if you ask me

Whoops... I didn't see the word "third" in there.

Post by **tulip** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 20:30

A new dope is harder than Smile for me. Mostly because it uses far more of those precision jumps where you have to jump through or land between two killing tiles.

Post by **KeenRush** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:43

I guess you're just joking, as it's a rather stoopid to complain about the ending also happening if you get more than 314 IQ points...

I think that was the only sane solution. Besides, there's no way for you at that point to see what the actual count is, so you don't know whether Keen drinks the other one or not.

Anyway, I don't think New Dope is third hardest or anything, it was meant to be fun and playable (failure again), the action is mainly based on shooting and enemies because I thought that was what everyone wanted, instead of tricky jumping. To me Smile is much more difficult. At any rate, the next mod will be much easier.

Mink · Post by **Mink** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:10

I'm only at a measly 251 IQ, and I have to say I much prefer it to Smile. There are still jump challenges, but they're nowhere near as evil as the ones in Smile.

KeenRush wrote:At any rate, the next mod will be much easier.

*Anticipates*

Syllypryde · Post by **Syllypryde** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:03

KeenRush wrote:I guess you're just joking, as it's a rather stoopid to complain about the ending also happening if you get more than 314 IQ points... I think that was the only sane solution. Besides, there's no way for you at that point to see what the actual count is, so you don't know whether Keen drinks the other one or not.

Anyway, I don't think New Dope is third hardest or anything, it was meant to be fun and playable (failure again), the action is mainly based on shooting and enemies because I thought that was what everyone wanted, instead of tricky jumping. To me Smile is much more difficult. At any rate, the next mod will be much easier.

Despite the difficulty of each of these two mods, they are both held in high regard by most of the Keen community. I know I keep saying I hate Smile, but yet I keep finding myself going back to it. For each level I beat on each one of the games, I find myself happy. It is just sometimes it can be so frustrating.

There was a day one time just screwing around I opened up Keens 4-8 and began playing them all on easy. You know what? I kept dying! On all five games I could not make it past their first levels! (which is extremely odd considering I can beat levels on hard in these games, but now all of a sudden I cannot play them on easy? WTF?) So guess what I did? I closed down the Galaxy games and mods and opened up Smile and A New Dope. You know what? I beat one level on Smile and beat two levels on AND. Sound crazy?

Basically what I am saying here, on the days I do not have the hand-to-eye coordination to play easier games, that is when I will play the harder ones instead, and I actually make progress on those games!

Patrick

VikingBoyBilly · Post by **VikingBoyBilly** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 16:06

I wish someone would post an explanatory video of how to do those impossible jumps in AND, because I don't have a clue how to execute them. You know the ones I mean. The ones where you're in a little crevice with a low ceiling and you must somehow jump out of that crevice with great horizontal distance and precice vertical height.

Post by **KeenRush** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 17:28

Impossible pogo, usually.

Mink · Post by **Mink** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:11

I beat AND today! My final score was 148,200 with two Keens left. Level09 was particularly helpful with its giant stash of IQ points. Now I need to go back through and try to complete all the levels (I have a feeling that's harder than just winning).

VikingBoyBilly · Post by **VikingBoyBilly** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 16:54

KeenRush wrote:Impossible pogo, usually.

I thought that was only a Keen Galaxy trick. But even there I still haven't learned to pull it off

Syllypryde · Post by **Syllypryde** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 20:30

VikingBoyBilly wrote:
KeenRush wrote:Impossible pogo, usually.
I thought that was only a Keen Galaxy trick. But even there I still haven't learned to pull it off

The Impossible pogo trick (IPT) works a little different in the Vorticon trilogy. In Galaxy, it allows you to jump around half(?) a tile higher and allows you to jump at a radical horizontal angle. In Vorticons, it does not make you jump any higher, but still allows the radical horinzontal angle.
I find IPT easier in Vorticons, but I can do it very reliably in Galaxy. (Strangely enough, I can do the IPT every time on my desktop, but can only do it 70-85% of the time on my laptop.)

In order to do the IPT, you have to hit the Alt (pogo) and then the Ctrl (jump) ALMOST simultaneously while also pushing the left or right directional button. In Galaxy, the IPT is very difficult if not almost impossible with two-button firing on. So if you are having problems making IPT work in Galaxy, it may be because you have two-button firing activated. Deactivate it immediately.

As for A New Dope, you will need to learn all the jump tricks you can if you are going to stand a chance at solving any of these levels.

Patrick

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