How much would you pay for a new Keen?

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How much would you pay for a new episode of Commander Keen?

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$0 (Ad supported is fine.)
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3%
$1 - $5
1
3%
$6 - $10
2
7%
$11 - $15
3
10%
$16 - $25
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31%
$26 - $50
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10%
$51+ (And Tom Hall can have my first born child.)
10
34%
 
Total votes: 29

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Post by Keening_Product » Thu Aug 09, 2012 0:57

I'm curious about how much people would be willing to pay for a new episode of Commander Keen, should one be created.

Pricing is an important consideration in a new episode as profit is key in any game's development, but these days we are used to free ad-supported games and abandonware from the 90s and 2000s!

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Post by TerminILL » Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:25

I'll be the first to admit I'm notoriously stingy, in a world of Steam sales and indie titles that don't usually cost more than $10. I think the outside I'd pay for a new Keen is $15, which I really don't consider unreasonable, all told.

Honestly, pricing on games these days is a hard issue. There's generally three factors to take into account: what developers deserve, what buyers are willing to pay, and what publishers want. These figures usually don't line up.
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Post by Scarlet » Thu Aug 09, 2012 16:26

I voted zero, because I do not want them to make a new one as I think people on here are doing a better job with the mods so far.
But at any rate, if they do indeed make one, my reply would still be a big big big zero. I'd probably watch it on youtube or something.
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Post by troublesomekeen » Thu Aug 09, 2012 16:49

Scarlet wrote:I'd probably watch it on youtube or something.
I dunno, Scarlet. What if someone posted a play-through of the first level plus the opening cut-scene, with perfect voice-acting, exhilarating game-play, quirktastic soundtrack, bombastic graphics, and slapstastic humor!?! There's no limit to the amount I would pay if I saw a preview like that!
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Post by Roobar » Thu Aug 09, 2012 17:57

That depends. If the keen is going to be a 2D side scroller, the price should be somewhere between $7 and $12 (that's where I'm aiming). But I'll pay whatever it is the price! Even if it is a 3D (like Trine, BCR, Sonic 4 or Project Giana), but it is still a 2.5D perspective side scroller similar to the gameplay mechanics of Keen 4-6, I'd pay whatever it cost. But if it is a 3D third/first person ala Mario 64, I'll probably not buy it.

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Post by cyber zero » Thu Aug 09, 2012 20:38

I would pay $51+, even if it was an unjust price.
I just love keen, much more than most of the games that are coming out right now.

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Post by Scarlet » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:37

troublesomekeen wrote:
Scarlet wrote:I'd probably watch it on youtube or something.
I dunno, Scarlet. What if someone posted a play-through of the first level plus the opening cut-scene, with perfect voice-acting, exhilarating game-play, quirktastic soundtrack, bombastic graphics, and slapstastic humor!?! There's no limit to the amount I would pay if I saw a preview like that!

Well, I don't think I'll see a preview like that. ;)

I found out about keen7 from youtube though. :) But they will not be making a new keen game in DOS graphics. No chance.
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Post by Keening_Product » Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:20

Scarlet wrote:But they will not be making a new keen game in DOS graphics. No chance.
Oh ye of little faith! Why not? MANY indie games have experimented with different graphical restrictions, so why should a new Keen not stick with the look that made it famous?!

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Post by Ceilick » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:02

If the new Keen was comparable in gameplay, length, and general style of the original games, I would pay $16 - $25.

If the new Keen was something completely new, while still managing to maintain complete "keenishness", $26 - $50.

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Post by Commander Spleen » Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:08

You had me at perfect voice-acting.

Assuming it's an excellent new game, and it had a boxed edition, $26-50. If it came as a well designed special edition, $9,001.

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Post by Benvolio » Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:17

Keen is the only video game I care about (except AOEII and that game needs no fooling around with) so really name your price Tom and I'll pay. I would however be quite unhappy if it wasn't done in EGA style. I would also be unhappy if there wasn't a freely distributable first episode. Resurrect shareware!

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Post by Keening_Product » Sat Aug 11, 2012 13:12

Benvolio, your post made me realise something: I can't think of many modern episodic games. Well, not in the same way that Keen, GoT, Jazz and so on were. I've not paid much attention recently, so is this accurate?
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Post by Benvolio » Sat Aug 11, 2012 13:21

Well I suppose there's a lot of games with sequels these days. For example Halo is a series of episodes. But I'm pretty sure the model that Apogee and others worked off is long-gone. Probably nowhere near profitable enough. Sure look at Keen4 - if you were strapped for cash, you could very well get half a childhood's worth of fun out of it without bothering with Keen5 or 6. So there's probably lot of people who stuck to the shareware games and never paid Apogee a cent. I would probably have too only I was getting into modding and needed to buy them all to be fully up to speed. The games market has evolved and now probably forms the majority of the leisure spending of most 10-16 year old males.

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Post by Keening_Product » Sat Aug 11, 2012 14:37

Yeah, I never ventured beyond Keen 4 until a few years ago.

Half the issue was payment methods though - living in Australia, all the order options for every piece of shareware were aimed at the US and Europe, and were snail mail options. The internet could do a lot to revive the model.
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Post by VikingBoyBilly » Sat Aug 11, 2012 14:48

If it's from Tom himself or Tom-approved, I'd be willing to pay standard modern PC game price for it ($40-60). Are we talking about just one small episode here, or a trilogy of episodes put together?
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