Are mods fanfiction?

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Are mods fanfiction?

Post by VikingBoyBilly » Thu Apr 02, 2015 16:33

I hate to use that word, because of the bad connotations that come with it, but that's what we're dealing with, right? The video game form of fanfiction. I mean, the WADs of ID's later games were basically DLC before the term DLC was even coined.

I prefer to use the word 'fanon' for fan material that's actually competent. The collective of keen mods I would call fanon, while some teenager's random s^&* garggy doom map with bad recolor sprites pasted in is fanfiction.
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Post by Plasma Captain » Thu Apr 02, 2015 22:15

Regardless of any unsavoury connotations that the word may hold for you, fangames are still technically a form of fanfiction - fiction made by fans of the franchise.

I feel like "fanon" is a word that more closely refers to theories and stuff, right? Ideas that aren't actually presented as fact in the official work, but which are held by some fans. Like headcanon.

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Post by VikingBoyBilly » Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:06

No. TUIT is totally fanon.
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Post by VikingBoyBilly » Fri Apr 03, 2015 13:41

So, in short, your perception of the meaning of the word is wrong. Topic closed.
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Post by Plasma Captain » Fri Apr 03, 2015 16:16

Everyone disagrees with you. :|

It's kind of like saying that the game Commander Keen 4 is a fact within the official lore, when in actuality it's a story of its own which contains facts within the official lore. Fiction contains canon. Therefore, fanfiction contains fanon.

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Post by VikingBoyBilly » Fri Apr 03, 2015 16:53

I have to edit the articles.
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Post by VikingBoyBilly » Fri Apr 03, 2015 16:57

I go as far as to say Sonic Adventure, Sonic 2006, Metroid: Other M and Twilight are all fanfictions due to the way fanfiction is defined by mary sues and shark jumping.
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Post by Levellass » Sat Apr 04, 2015 0:44

Gonna have to stop you there.

What we have here is a classic case of Poe's revision. That is, 'I don't like a lot of something therefore anything bad is that and anything good isn't.'


Fanfiction is not defined by shark-jumping or Mary Sues, if it were then no show would ever go downhill because as soon as it did it would cease to be official. (As much as we wish that were the case it isn't so.) Fanfiction is defined simply by its source. It is unofficial and doesn't even have to be made by fans. (See: Hatefiction, Anti-fans, Fandumb.) Fanon likewise is lore that is not official but beleived by fans (Even if that's only one fan. See also Headcanon.)

Your definition would raise many problems. Would Gor be fanfiction? It's an original property if an utterly horrible one. And who would do the defining? Twilight sells. 50 Shades of Grey sells. You can rant and rave and whine all you like about it, but money doesn't lie. You are outvoted.

Mods, even TUIT are thus fanfiction. As are the rare Keen stories on this board and a lot of artwork. I like to think that the Keen community has produced a remarkably high gold to dross ratio for fanstuff.
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Post by VikingBoyBilly » Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:28

Oh, I like fanfiction (for the wrong reasons), but keen fan stuff is too good to be associated with, well, I was gonna list off some violated universes, but I'll just say "everything on fanfiction.net, plus sonic recolor videos."
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Post by KeenEmpire » Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:20

VikingBoyBilly wrote:everything on fanfiction.net
You've done it now!

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11090259/1 ... -Reckoning
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Post by VikingBoyBilly » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:57

automatically bad; because it's on fanfiction.net.
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Post by KeenEmpire » Sat Apr 04, 2015 14:10

still better than ASoIaF/HP/$YOUR_FAVE.
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Post by VikingBoyBilly » Sat Apr 04, 2015 18:48

...what?>
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Post by Nospike » Sat Apr 04, 2015 20:22

Gonna have to stop you there - there are *some* decent fics on fanfiction.net. True, about 50% of the content is utter crap and most of the other 50% is kinda meh and not really worth reading, but every now and then you can find some gems that will really leave you entertained and with no regrets. Usually one-shots and believable humour fics.
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Post by MoffD » Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:57

VikingBoyBilly wrote:automatically bad; because it's on fanfiction.net.
*looks at signature link address* naaahhhh...
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