Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

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Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Post by Keening_Product » Sun Dec 24, 2017 16:19

Given blue denim like what Keen wears was very much the dominant denim colour in the early 90s, and still is now, I assume jeans = blue unless otherwise stated. Having said that, it's an assumption and nothing more.
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Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Post by Mobiethian » Sun Dec 24, 2017 19:46

Here's my attempt at it according to Tom Hall's words.

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Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Post by Keening_Product » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:02

Mobiethian wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 19:46
Here's my attempt at it according to Tom Hall's words.

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Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Post by Nisaba » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:27

Keening_Product wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:02
Mobiethian wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 19:46
Here's my attempt at it according to Tom Hall's words.

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wait a minute... doesn't kvee's avatar look exactly like this. well, obviously without the helmet:
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Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Post by Mobiethian » Wed Dec 27, 2017 15:37

Ha! It's very likely because we both used Keen's original sprite to do the edit. ha I'm hoping that we could eventually come up with a final, accurate design for a planned mod according to how Tom Hall described him to look like.

Edit: I see where you're coming from now. It's a conspiracy alright! lol

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Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Post by Zilem » Wed Dec 27, 2017 17:06

I find it interesting how different we each interpret the shading of Black
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Mobiethian wrote:
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I like your interpretation of the logo, of The Chicago Bears

Don't know much about American Football, so i Looked into this.
Chicago Bears, seem to wear Dark Blue with Orange while Green Bay Packers wear Green and Yellow
(when either isn't wearing white instead, possible for easy color differentiation from opposing team?)
makes one think Keen's big brother's shirt would be Green, doesn't it.
Based on both team's colors:
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wait a minute... doesn't keen's avatar look exactly like this. well, obviously without the helmet
Szemi's qoute from Tom Hall "probably blue eyes."
It gives the notion that Mortimer is an evil twin of Keen, if it wasn't for Molly being the older sister of Mortimer.

It is more likely, that Mortimer is based on Keens design, it's our interpretation that he have angry eyebrows.
but without them and with a wrist-computer he looks pretty much like a palette swap of keen
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Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Post by Mobiethian » Wed Dec 27, 2017 23:21

I like your interpretation of black better, Zilem!

I see that the gray is supposed to still qualify as being a shade of black with lighting. The black lines stand out better that way. And the angry eyebrows definitely give him a unique look not so similar to Keen.

EDIT: my image link is no longer broken now, thankfully.

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Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Post by szemi » Fri Dec 29, 2017 15:48

I also don't know: Is the letter C is white or white that is surrounded by red (as you know the Chicago helmet).

I asked Tom about it, but he didn't reply.
Yeah, piece of cake!

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Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Post by Mobiethian » Fri Dec 29, 2017 17:22

The Chicago Bears helmet thing is confusing to me, personally. Some of their helmets have a plain white "C" and some have a red or orange C with white around it.

Actually, I've seen that they have blue and black helmets, so it ranges I think.

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Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Post by szemi » Fri Dec 29, 2017 19:20

I asked Tom about this and he finally answered it:

"Both their logos are obliterated by blast marks. (Really so that there wouldn’t be trademark violations.) Mortimer could have a GI logo in SGA..."
Yeah, piece of cake!

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Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Post by Mobiethian » Fri Dec 29, 2017 19:58

szemi wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 19:20
I asked Tom about this and he finally answered it:

"Both their logos are obliterated by blast marks. (Really so that there wouldn’t be trademark violations.) Mortimer could have a GI logo in SGA..."
Interestingly, that's why I didn't make a complete C logo in my helmet design, because it really shouldn't be completely recognizable as logo.

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Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Post by Zilem » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:17

Mobiethian wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 23:21
my image link is no longer broken now, thankfully.
Indeed. It looked like your image host was down, had exceeded bandwidth or DNS problems
at least it didn't last for the rest of 2017.
szemi wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 19:20
I asked Tom about this and he finally answered it:

"Both their logos are obliterated by blast marks. (Really so that there wouldn’t be trademark violations.) Mortimer could have a GI logo in SGA..."
It's still the Holidays, where you spend time with family and loved once.
I was sure he would get on it to reply to you early in 2018, seems he found a spare minute for you ^^

well that is Clearly not "Chicago Bears", hmm... back to square 2
Hmm....
> Georgia Bulldogs - have a Black and Red version of Green Bay Packers Logo
> Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Fit's Mortimer's Netkeen Palette

Edit: about an hour later, it hit me, GI -> G.I. aka "Grand Intellect."
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We are Talking Mortimer in Vorticon or in Galaxy?
Because i though we were talking Galaxy, but i get the feeling we are talking about Invasion of the Vorticons
makes me think i put up the wrong sprite(s) <.<;

Speaking of Trademark™ remember this?
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Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Post by Mobiethian » Sun Dec 31, 2017 17:26

Zilem wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:17
We are Talking Mortimer in Vorticon or in Galaxy?
It's Galaxy sprites that I've been working with at the present time. I think szemi is working with Vorticons sprites right now? Maybe we're talking about both. lol

That G.I. edit is pretty sweet looking!

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Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Post by Zilem » Fri Jan 05, 2018 19:16

Mobiethian wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 17:26
It's Galaxy sprites that I've been working with at the present time. I think szemi is working with Vorticons sprites right now? Maybe we're talking about both. lol

That G.I. edit is pretty sweet looking!
For Invasion of the Vorticons, he might look something like this?
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Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Post by szemi » Fri Jan 05, 2018 19:26

Well, I already designed it myself and it's black Chicago Helmet with white C on it, black T-shirt, blue jeans, blue eyes and black version of Keen's shoes (same as Keen's shoes, except it has black stripe).
Yeah, piece of cake!

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