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Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 19:17
by szemi
Hello!


I'm very curious: Does Mortimer have official costume?

Because I've seen different costumes in each Keen mods. Especially in Mort 1: Doomship Dilemma, and Keen X. And there is 1 official, Mort's helmet in Keen 5's ending, but no further infos are known like his T-shirt, his pants, his shoes. So you know what I mean.

Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 21:43
by K1n9_Duk3
Since you're talking about the official costume, you'll need to look at the official games, not fan-made mods. So the only clues we've got are the helmet from Keen 5 and the final level from Keen 3. I know, technically it's not Mortimer in Keen 3, but Billy sure thinks it's him, so it's safe to assume that it's the costume Mortimer would be wearing.

Anything else is just pure speculation and doesn't deserve to be called "official" unless Tom Hall says so. (Yeah, this also means that Keen GBC doesn't count. Period. :mort2 )

If you wanted to discuss what Mortimer's costume should look like in any future mods, then perhaps you shouldn't be talking about the "official" costume in the first place.

Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:54
by szemi
Well, I asked Tom Hall about this and he said the following:


"Most of those are known... Helmet is banged up Chicago Bears helmet. Pants are jeans, i thiiiiiink black shirt, and adhering to that old palette, probably blue eyes."

Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:48
by ScarletFlame
Huh. I didn't know Mortimer's Helmet was of the Chicago bears. Learned something new.

Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:20
by szemi
Yeah.

And another thing he told me after asking:


"He has no official stunner, just the mangling machine. He likes being more devious than a simple sidearm, probably...."

Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:13
by proYorp
szemi wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:54
Well, I asked Tom Hall about this and he said the following:
"[...] Helmet is banged up Chicago Bears helmet."
So it is a Bears helmet! I've suspected this for years, after seeing a clip from some random old football video where the players had black helmets with a white C :mort2 (which my brother told me was the Bears logo). Also, fun fact: the Chicago Bears are supposedly arch-enemies of the Green Bay Packers. Coincidence? :evil

Do you have a link to your conversation with Tom Hall? (This was on Twitter like the rest of them, right?) Not that I don't believe you, I'm just a bit curious to see the original message.
szemi wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:54
"[...] i thiiiiiink black shirt [...]"
For a long time I've thought the "Mortimer" in the Mangling Machine looked like he was wearing a white shirt with black suspenders over it. I guess it's actually a black tank top then?

Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:54
by szemi
It was a chat on facebook.

And as I quoted, you should believe it. Why? I got to know another info about his eye-brow:

He said:
"In original i think they are black. In fan-games, brown cuz they just changed Keen’s image. Black or super dark brown. Sorta like Damien in The Omen."

UPDATE: I also asked Tom about the colour Mort's shoes. Here it is:

"Black version of Keen’s shoes.

Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 21:47
by MoffD
Oh shoot, my costume was off then :D

Thanks for asking him Szemi! Neat stuff

Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:14
by Ceilick
Great info, had no idea about the Chicago Bears helmet. That being the case, it seems almost certain that the helmet as seen in Keen 5 only has the double M on it in order to explicitly indicate to the player who it belongs to (or it's just a mistake). Similar to how Keen's is missing the green G in the title screen and other images.

Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 22:15
by Keening_Product
Interesting. Good research Szemi. :mort

Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 16:49
by Levellass
Someone add it to the keenwiki.

Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 23:34
by Nisaba
Who goes by the username of Someone?

Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 21:32
by Zilem
Hmmm... Mortimmer's Wardrobe sounds pretty much purely Black
So this Mortimer's official look?
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In Keen 5, we saw a Black Helmet with Red MM on the side, for Mortimer Mcmire
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So this could possible be how he Dressed Doing Goodbye Galaxy, after the Defeat on Vorticon VI?
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I'd like to think he started to wear a red Shirt after he had to Rescue he's Sister
after he had ordered the Bloogs capture her, to annoy Keen. only to realize they were planed to eat her...
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and keeps the Blaster was because: incompetent Minions.


Wait-what it's Just over Sport teams!?, and here i though it was over the +1 in IQ or Mortimer possible working for Vitacorp...

Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 21:36
by szemi
Zilem wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 21:32
Hmmm... Mortimmer's Wardrobe sounds pretty much purely Black
So this Mortimer's official look?
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Nope, he has jeans like I mentioned x comments above. Read that. Also, I mentioned the shoes of Mortimer as well.

Re: Question about Mortimer McMire's costume

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 22:50
by Zilem
szemi wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 21:36
Zilem wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 21:32
Hmmm... Mortimmer's Wardrobe sounds pretty much purely Black
So this Mortimer's official look?
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Nope, he has jeans like I mentioned x comments above. Read that. Also, I mentioned the shoes of Mortimer as well.
Why is it that you so often insinuate that i didn't read your posts?, when i have! It's getting rather annoying...

Jeans is a type of pants, i saw no specification if they are Loose or Tight or the Color for that matter.
I took a wild Guess about the pants. with the information: Black Helmet, Black Shirt, Black Shoes, Black Hair, hmm Blue Eyes.
they can't possible be Black.

"Black version of Keen’s shoes"
Red and White -> Black and White or Black and Gray
We only have 2 shades of Dark: Black & Dark gray.
Black is already used the outline and as the Dark shade of Black, while the Black highlight is Dark gray
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Maybe spot can spot the problem?