Remember the video of Bobby Prince singing Eat Your Veggies?

Sciz CT · Post by **Sciz CT** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 20:45

This one, that Joe Siegler posted years ago?

It turns out that he just dug up the original VHS it was on and gave it to John Romero, who promptly recorded and uploaded the entire thing.

It mostly shows off Romero playing a near-release build of DOOM, but there's a fair bit of footage of the id offices and Prince demoing more music as well.

VikingBoyBilly · Post by **VikingBoyBilly** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 21:08

I remember that video. I'll have to watch the new and improved version you just posted sometime later

Galaxieretter · Post by **Galaxieretter** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:22

Bobby / Robert :"This did go in to Keen... foower....... yeah, four or fieeeve."

Other Guy: "Five, (the) Aliens ate my Babysitter."

I guess that answers that.

That was a long video, a little over half an hour. I almost stopped watching it when Bobby was talking but I'm glad I didn't.

MortimerInBlack · Post by **MortimerInBlack** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:44

YES I KNEW IT!

I knew K6 was originally fifth (or at least adjacent to K4 some way). Ever notice how they are similar from a programming standpoint? E.g., the texture from the F10+Y cheat is the same.

Hehe, never knew Prince sounded so southern. Well this is certainly awsome. My question is, who is Linton, the camera man? because he's the one that said "5, aliens ate my babysitter." He sounded a bit uncertain to me. And man how i'd kill for that kinda job back then.

Darn it's not on youtube. Now im paranoid that eventually it will disappear from the website.

Genius314 · Post by **Genius314** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:51

I don't trust them as a reliable source for the order of the episodes. This was in 1993 - AFTER Keen 4-6 had been released, so it's not like they were still making the games. It could've just been because they didn't specifically remember which order they were in.
...Although I don't doubt that Keen 6 was originally Keen 5, I'm just saying that this isn't really proof.

I noticed how BP said that the version he was playing of YGTEYV was the MIDI version, but it sounded a lot like the original Adlib one. So much for "better instruments."

MortimerInBlack wrote:Darn it's not on youtube. Now im paranoid that eventually it will disappear from the website.

I made a copy of the video file. I'll try and post it on YouTube tomorrow.

jonnyspeight · Post by **jonnyspeight** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:24

okay so if keen 6 is actually keen 5...where's the logic in that???

Post by **KeenRush** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 13:50

An interesting bit of 'info'.

MortimerInBlack · Post by **MortimerInBlack** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 13:52

Genius314 wrote:I noticed how BP said that the version he was playing of YGTEYV was the MIDI version, but it sounded a lot like the original Adlib one. So much for "better instruments."

It could just be the poor audio quality of the camera.

jonnyspeight wrote:okay so if keen 6 is actually keen 5...where's the logic in that??? Confused

Lol. check it out on 3drealms keen history article. The very least that we know, is that 5 was made last.

U know, i have never played doom at all. After watching that funny video, i have to play it now.

KeenEmpire · Post by **KeenEmpire** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 15:56

I thought it was common knowledge that keen 6 was made before 5.

Genius314 · Post by **Genius314** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 17:11

MortimerInBlack wrote:U know, i have never played doom at all. After watching that funny video, i have to play it now.

Yeah, me too. The game looks a lot more impressive than I thought it was (well, for that time, anyway).

It's actually funny to see how amazed they were by the game back then. To think how far games have come now...

VikingBoyBilly · Post by **VikingBoyBilly** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 18:12

You mean you people who were bashing ID for dropping Keen in favor of Doom never even played it? I don't exactly know if you're these same people so try not to be offended if I gave you a false accusation. But really, you should give Doom a try. It's quite fun

At least the first game is. The second one drops into nonsensical stupidity

Sciz CT · Post by **Sciz CT** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 18:41

You can't understate just how far ahead of the pack DOOM was compared to everything else in that day and age. Ultima Underworld beat it to the punch in several regards, but DOOM could run on far more machines and was the faster, more intense game.

Plus it's just plain fun. In some respects, it's the FPS equivalent of Keen; most levels are as much about navigating the environment, collecting colored keycards, and locating secret areas as they are about dealing with the enemy hordes. And if you play Chex Quest, you even get the kid-friendly presentation.

VikingBoyBilly · Post by **VikingBoyBilly** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 19:38

Wow, thanks for posting that. I actually got the CD in my cereal but had a macintosh at the time

Now that I know what the game is called I can finally see what I missed! =D

Genius314 · Post by **Genius314** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 20:51

I've never bashed the original Doom. It's always looked cool, I've just never played it.
I only bashed the sequels because they abandoned Keen for them. (And honestly, I wouldn't care if they had abandoned Keen after TUIT. I'd be fine with them making tons of Doom sequels, as long as they had just finished Keens 7-9 first.)

StupidBunny · Post by **StupidBunny** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:38

Doom is a really awesome game, and pretty much ties with Commander Keen as my favorite game of all time. I never felt the sort of bitterness some Keeners feel about Doom overtaking Keen as id's priority, though it still would have been nice if they hadn't shelved TUIT altogether. I can't pretend that isn't disappointing.