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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 21:47
by yount
Base of Unknown has me ???????

That message at the top? Those doors I can't seem to get to? Hmm I must try again...

I'm not quite sure how I got to this level. I had just bombed out on The Blog Labs and I was about to go back to the ship when I accidentally ran across the dirt to be picked up by the satellite...

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 15:03
by yount
Any more hints to reach the super secret level?

I just sat on Base Of Unknown searching around for hours to no avail. Below where Commander Keen starts off is some weird symbol on the ground. Does that have any relevance? Above the 1ups??A previous poster says 3-5 non trivial steps?? I can't work this out. Any hints?

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:38
by NY00123
yount wrote:Any more hints to reach the super secret level?

I just sat on Base Of Unknown searching around for hours to no avail. Below where Commander Keen starts off is some weird symbol on the ground. Does that have any relevance? Above the 1ups??A previous poster says 3-5 non trivial steps?? I can't work this out. Any hints?
Hey yount,

Start by looking for the usual kind of hidden places. One of these may lead to one of the doors, although in a way combining a couple of tricks.
After you do reach the door, it worths to recall the message you've seen in the same level.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 0:30
by yount
NY00123 wrote:
yount wrote:Any more hints to reach the super secret level?

I just sat on Base Of Unknown searching around for hours to no avail. Below where Commander Keen starts off is some weird symbol on the ground. Does that have any relevance? Above the 1ups??A previous poster says 3-5 non trivial steps?? I can't work this out. Any hints?
Hey yount,

Start by looking for the usual kind of hidden places. One of these may lead to one of the doors, although in a way combining a couple of tricks.
After you do reach the door, it worths to recall the message you've seen in the same level.
Thanks NY00123,

I'm enjoying discovering new things in this game, and am glad cheats are off. But arghhh, so frustrating, so hard. In Base Of Unknown there are a lot of skinny walls so one figures it musn't be too hard to find... yet...

Good, so at least I'm sure the super secret is in the secret level (BOU).

I'm going to go back, (play this on Easy level this time) and search again.

Again, thanks for the reply, I completely gave up last night and even started mucking around with level editing instead.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:54
by NY00123
yount wrote:Thanks NY00123,

I'm enjoying discovering new things in this game, and am glad cheats are off. But arghhh, so frustrating, so hard. In Base Of Unknown there are a lot of skinny walls so one figures it musn't be too hard to find... yet...
Truly, maybe you've seen that the cheats are disabled in order to avoid potential spoilers from being revealed to you in an unintended way. Given the time passed since the release of AAMBA, though, I guess these can be enabled again...
Good, so at least I'm sure the super secret is in the secret level (BOU).
Even if it weren't, you'd still like to reach any of the doors, right? :)
I'm going to go back, (play this on Easy level this time) and search again.
The difficulty shouldn't have an effect on the ability to get through these secrets.
Again, thanks for the reply, I completely gave up last night and even started mucking around with level editing instead.
You're welcome. And yeah, I agree it is frustrating if nothing is found after searching for quite long...

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 22:49
by yount
NY00123 wrote: Even if it weren't, you'd still like to reach any of the doors, right? :)
I'm going to go back, (play this on Easy level this time) and search again.
The difficulty shouldn't have an effect on the ability to get through these secrets.
But how to reach the doors? hmmm, I am still looking. I'm trying to pogo off the switch to maybe find a hidden little grab ledge above. There's some space in the ceiling on the upper far left of the level, on the lower right is a high but narrow secret ceiling. I can't seem to find any more.... >:

And I was thinking Easy difficulty level because Keen is able to pogo much higher and jump with what seems to me to be more "airtime" at this level. Worth a shot.

Still no success...

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 23:15
by NY00123
yount wrote:But how to reach the doors? hmmm, I am still looking. I'm trying to pogo off the switch to maybe find a hidden little grab ledge above. There's some space in the ceiling on the upper far left of the level, on the lower right is a high but narrow secret ceiling. I can't seem to find any more.... >:

And I was thinking Easy difficulty level because Keen is able to pogo much higher and jump with what seems to me to be more "airtime" at this level. Worth a shot.

Still no success...
I can tell that it is possible to access the super secret level and reach the doors while playing on the hardest difficulty.

So, you've found a few secrets. Not a new thing but that's already good! Now, ledge grabbing is one thing; But maybe you can try something different... well, possibly more than one such thing...

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 23:44
by yount
Arghh, I'll get this. Going in for another crack...

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 0:22
by yount
I have no idea!

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:00
by yount
I'm holding on to gems hoping to somehow get down to that lower left slot or whatever it is, I am pressing up behind every archway and secret in case of a hidden door, I am pressing down and jump behind every nook and cranny (like the secret level in Keen 5,) I am grabbing for ledges oh how I have done every edge... I need another prod in the right direction.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:04
by NY00123
yount wrote:I'm holding on to gems hoping to somehow get down to that lower left slot or whatever it is, I am pressing up behind every archway and secret in case of a hidden door, I am pressing down and jump behind every nook and cranny (like the secret level in Keen 5,) I am grabbing for ledges oh how I have done every edge... I need another prod in the right direction.
Maybe it would help if you think in the following way. There are doors that you may enter with the Up key, floors you can fall through with Jump+Down (as used on the way to the Keen 5 secret level) and ledges to grab. What more may Keen do?

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:11
by yount
Mate I have no idea :dead

Just experimented for 1/2 an hour before shooting everything and every which way, pressing up and down-jump everywhere, I even tried holding onto my gems and jumping on the goplats in the middle of the level and trying to reverse back through the level without using gems (it doesn't work, the goplat spits you backwards but just not enough to dodge the slime.)

I always thought I was the Keen master but I have met my match with this mod.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:26
by yount
NY00123 wrote:
-doors that you may enter with the Up key
-Jump+Down
-ledges to grab.

What more may Keen do?
hmmm

-shimmy on poles
-shoot in all directions
-wait (I tried waiting on that symbol (and shooting it!!) to no avail
-pogo
-flip switches
-look up or down
-put gems in slots
-die

*edit*

So does this require the IB trick or can it be done "legally"?

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:11
by yount
Yeah i've nutted this one out, but not without crossing to the darkside, mwuahaha :o

*EDIT* no hold the phone, he approaches one more door...

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:39
by yount
OH FFS :x