Attention Americans (and non-americans)

VikingBoyBilly · Post by **VikingBoyBilly** » Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:01

I never said I was voting republican.

KP: by "here," do you mean Australia? Oh ho ho, someone in bed with the ruling powers of pckf sees nothing wrong with giving regular members of society nothing to fight back with if their government goes corrupt.

Post by **Keening_Product** » Tue Dec 15, 2015 13:11

Obviously I mean Australia, you know where I live. And lol, yes, I bang the admins every night. Afterwards we laugh, oh how we laugh, about the unarmed masses of spam bots I strike down every other day with the powers they granted me.

It's your own thread, VBB, so it's up to you now whether you keep it on topic or continue to flail wildly instead of providing proof. Your argument has swung from anti-immigrants to anti-government. Will you provide evidence that a disarmed population with high Muslim immigration is the recipe for disaster you claim it is?

VikingBoyBilly · Post by **VikingBoyBilly** » Tue Dec 15, 2015 14:07

I am not anti-immigrant! I'm anti-tyranny. That's what Ron Paul is all about. That's what my thread is all about! You're all changing my arguments to be about anti-immigration and pro-republican. You want your proof? Look at youtube copyright strikes. It's shoot first and ask questions later! That's what the corporate elites can do in an uneven playing field. It's going to scare the immigrants who are told "you're not allowed to protect yourself" and the anti-muslim extremists will riot when the gub'ment tries to take their arms away. Everyone will freak out and everything will be extreme! It's not like life is just going to go on normally like it always does after people complain about whatever the current political debate is, I haven't seen a single political cartoon ever not be 100% reflective of reality... ever.

edit: Of course they don't want to kill people in Australia, because it's not Australians that are attacking them.

edit 2: Look at EarthBound. Just think about what would have happened if Ness's right to bear a baseball bat was taken away. Giygas would have destroyed Earth!

Post by **Keening_Product** » Tue Dec 15, 2015 14:27

Actually, we are, annoyingly.

I'll respond to the rest later. Have better things to do.

VikingBoyBilly · Post by **VikingBoyBilly** » Tue Dec 15, 2015 14:45

Woah, what? What's australia doing in iran/iraq?

Rorie · Post by **Rorie** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 23:09

VikingBoyBilly wrote:I never said I was voting republican.

If America and the GOP had any shed of decently, they would dis-endorse Trump immediately therefore meaning he will never be President, The Don is a embarrassment to not only the US, it's people but also his American/Scottish heritage, and neither America or Scotland want his bigotry and hate speech!

troublesomekeen · Post by **troublesomekeen** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 23:45

Decency. What politician has it? We can't even call them traitors anymore. Traitors to what? The Constitution? Heh. Decency. It's a drop of water in the desert. I might have the decency to note vote for Trump, but what difference does that make either way?

VikingBoyBilly · Post by **VikingBoyBilly** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 0:31

Pretty much none, since presidents are just figureheads. It's also weird that this presidential system appeals to a society against monarchy simply by not calling them kings. Or "prime ministers" or whatever.

Rorie · Post by **Rorie** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 0:58

VikingBoyBilly wrote:Pretty much none, since presidents are just figureheads. It's also weird that this presidential system appeals to a society against monarchy simply by not calling them kings. Or "prime ministers" or whatever.

A Constitutional Monarchy has a queen or king as head of state, the Commonwealth of Australia has a queen as our head of state and A Prime Minister as our head of government, ironically the current head of state for the commonwealth of nations has the same monarch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations

Rorie · Post by **Rorie** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:00

troublesomekeen wrote:Decency. What politician has it? We can't even call them traitors anymore. Traitors to what? The Constitution? Heh. Decency. It's a drop of water in the desert. I might have the decency to note vote for Trump, but what difference does that make either way?

Perhaps maybe in America, but in Australia I will not refrain from calling the Liberal Party traitors, for example Tony Abbott our former PM!

Post by **Fleexy** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 15:19

Looks like ISideWith.com has gotten their stuff together for the 2016 US election. Time to compare results! It says I'm a right-wing libertarian, which sounds about right.

EDIT: Also, PoliticalCompass, as ScarletFlame reminded me that exists:

ScarletFlame · Post by **ScarletFlame** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 21:24

Let's see how terrible human beings we all are

My result was...

not really surprising.

Post by **Keening_Product** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 23:07

I don't like Political Compass - left/right divisions are a gross simplification of political views, even when including an authoritarian/not y axis. Having said that, it places me as far left as its graph can handle and, if I recall correctly, half way down the negative area of the y axis. The authoritarian/not calculation bothers me most - I believe property valuations should be enforced and support other strict economic controls, which is not asked and would probably place me in positive y territory, not that that's an accurate measure of political views on its own.

[Edit: added word "support"]

VikingBoyBilly · Post by **VikingBoyBilly** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 23:09

Economic Left/Right: -4.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.33

Post by **Levellass** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 21:59

It always amused me how an issue can be on either side of the left\right divide depending on the history of a country. Abortion for example was a centrist issue here and defended slightly more by the right than the left due to there being a lack of religious alignment with the right and more value of human life being emphasized by the left.

In theory the right in America should be against police violence, they're certainly against the military doing such things on American soil (What happened to Jade helm anyway guys?) but due they're not. Prison reform is moving to the center from the left, possibly as people realize how expensive and bloated the system has become.

All in all I figure these divisions are about as useful as 'Us' vs 'Them'.