Installing Windows 95 Software on Windows 7

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Installing Windows 95 Software on Windows 7

Post by Scilicet » Mon Sep 14, 2015 23:21

I have some old games from when my family had Windows 95, and I'd like to install them on my Windows 7 laptop. I tried and got a message saying that there was an issue.
Some research unearthed this, which said that the issue was the 16-bit installer rather than the game. I tried to follow the instructions. I copied the CD contents to a deidcated folder in program files and copied the downloaded InstallShield 3 to the folder. I double-clicked the setup32 icon and got a message saying that "Setup requires _SETUP.DLL and ISRES.DLL (located in _SETUP.LIB) in order to operate properly. Please ensure that these files are located with SETUP.EXE." I have all three of them at the same level in the folder as the exe, so I am unsure what I am doing wrong. Am I supposed to drag some of those over the setup.exe?

I've also seen instructions for DOSBox and Virtual Machine, but I'd rather stick with this because I want to do this for other people's computers, and I think this would be the simplest way to teach others.

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Post by Paramultart » Mon Sep 14, 2015 23:24

You can't do it. Emulation is the only way.
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Post by ScarletFlame » Mon Sep 14, 2015 23:40

Get an old computer and install 95 on it. Bonus if you use a beige CRT monitor.

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Re: Installing Windows 95 Software on Windows 7

Post by MoffD » Mon Sep 14, 2015 23:48

Scilicet wrote: I've also seen instructions for DOSBox and Virtual Machine, but I'd rather stick with this because I want to do this for other people's computers, and I think this would be the simplest way to teach others.
I think that's your only hope. I can certainly relate to wanting an easier way to show people. I honestly can't understand why they can't drag the *.bat file into the dosbox shortcut...
imko installing dosbox and teaching them about click/drag is the easiest way, virtual machines just get too complicated.

Or you could dual-boot. I wonder if you can put 95/8 on a flashdrive... 8)
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Post by Scilicet » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:35

I've read that this has worked for other people.

I found that I didn't have all the files copied in the same place. I got the installer to launch and get part of the way through the installation. It stopped, saying that there was a file transfer error (number 37) and to check the destination directory. I launched the installer and checked the destination path. The correct folder was selected, but the text box at the top contained "02sdazzr.qzy" and defaulted to that even if I typed the correct path (C:\Program Files\Expert Software\24 Games for Windows). If I try to leave the box blank, the installer tells me the file directory is invalid, incomplete, or write protected. It then tells me to supply a path including a drive letter, like C:\APPS.

I want to do this for other people's computers, particularly those who don't have access to an old one. My dad, in particular, would like to play Think Tank on his office computer, which also runs 7. He wants to just click an icon on the desktop and get to the game selection screen. His computer is used primarily for his business, so I doubt he would understand or appreciate usage of an emulator.

The games run fine from the CD.

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Post by Keening_Product » Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:55

Install Linux ;) WINE runs old 16- and 32-bit applications well.

But seriously, run Linux as a live CD, install WINE while running the live image, decompress the files there (installers tend to work), dump the output onto your HDD and reboot into Windows.
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Post by Paramultart » Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:21

Can WINE run old Windows 95 games that run off a CD?
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Post by Roobar » Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:11

Actually, you need a 32 bit windows 10 in order to run 16 bit software.

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Post by Paramultart » Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:36

Windows 10 is death.

People are naive to think that you can simply "disable" certain features to maintain your privacy, because it's been proven to spy on you regardless.

There are so many back-doors built into it that it's practically the Facebook of operating systems.
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Post by Keening_Product » Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:48

Paramultart wrote:Can WINE run old Windows 95 games that run off a CD?
I'm talking about using WINE to run the initial installation, not to actually play the game. I'm pretty sure that would work though. - I used to play RollerCoaster Tycoon off a CD via WINE IIRC.
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Post by Levellass » Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:48

Paramultart wrote:Windows 10 is death.

People are naive to think that you can simply "disable" certain features to maintain your privacy, because it's been proven to spy on you regardless.

There are so many back-doors built into it that it's practically the Facebook of operating systems.
You know, when I told people on this very forum several years ago I didn't want to be on facebook they called me paranoid.
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Post by MoffD » Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:47

Scilicet wrote:I've read that this has worked for other people.
Ahhh Fire Fight, I missed you. I can confirm that wine works with older Windows games, interestingly Fire Fight is one I have tried.
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Edit: If anyone's interested, I believe I had to install the directx libs packaged with the game due to DirectPlay being deprecated.
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Post by Roobar » Tue Sep 15, 2015 15:05

Levellass wrote:
Paramultart wrote:Windows 10 is death.

People are naive to think that you can simply "disable" certain features to maintain your privacy, because it's been proven to spy on you regardless.

There are so many back-doors built into it that it's practically the Facebook of operating systems.
You know, when I told people on this very forum several years ago I didn't want to be on facebook they called me paranoid.
BOTH of you are (still) too paranoid. As always. What are you hiding guys? :evil

As for your (overly exaggerated) privacy concerns, that's a whole different subject that has nothing to do with the topic and maybe deserves a separation.

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Post by VikingBoyBilly » Tue Sep 15, 2015 18:49

You have to use dosbox and source ports like Dark Places/Hammer of Thyrion.

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Post by Levellass » Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:41

wiivn wrote:
Levellass wrote:
Paramultart wrote:Windows 10 is death.

People are naive to think that you can simply "disable" certain features to maintain your privacy, because it's been proven to spy on you regardless.

There are so many back-doors built into it that it's practically the Facebook of operating systems.
You know, when I told people on this very forum several years ago I didn't want to be on facebook they called me paranoid.
BOTH of you are (still) too paranoid. As always. What are you hiding guys? :evil

As for your (overly exaggerated) privacy concerns, that's a whole different subject that has nothing to do with the topic and maybe deserves a separation.
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