Public Commander Keen Forum

keenmaster486 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:28 Ah, but is it right?

The issue's been hashed over and over again.

We fought a bloody war over it in America. And now certain states (Cali, looking at you) are rumbling again for independence for different reasons.

keenmaster486 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 17:47 There have been legal cases in which the Supreme Court makes clear their position that secession from the Union is not constitutional.

Personally, I don't think that was the original intention of the Union. I think probably most of the Founding Fathers, if asked, would have foreseen a possible need for secession in the future. Their reason would probably have been, among others, what if the federal government becomes grossly incompetent? The States were originally supposed to be a lot more separate but equal political entities than simple geographical and cultural divisions within the nation.

But that was the issue the Civil War was fought upon - ostensibly, that is. We all know the deeper and darker reason that war had to be fought.

But think about this. What if the point of contention had not been slavery? What if it was something more innocuous like federal control of business practices within a state? Or the reasons the secession movement in California has been giving?

When I look at California I think they at least ought to have a right to secede. Also, I have selfish motives as a conservative. The exit of California from the Union would tilt the federal government fairly safely conservative.