Wolfenstein New Order looks cliche and dumb and retcons Keen

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Wolfenstein New Order looks cliche and dumb and retcons Keen

Post by Paramultart » Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:51

What have they done to the Wolfenstein series? Wolf3D & RTCW were great games... All this other crap... WTF? Horrible.

By having an alt history game in the Wolf universe, set in the 60's, they're retconning the entire Keen franchise.

I just thought I'd post here and say that I don't approve of this game.

PS. The new Doom is going to suck. Why not just call it Doom 4 even? It's like what they did with Mortal Kombat. How stupid.
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Post by Nospike » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:37

I was very curious how a Wolfenstein game would look in a 60s setting, but I didn't like the way they pulled it off at all. RTCW remains my favourite Wolf game.
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Post by VikingBoyBilly » Wed Feb 25, 2015 13:15

How can there be a new Doom game when ID is bankrupt, silly?
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Post by szemi » Wed Feb 25, 2015 14:08

VikingBoyBilly wrote:How can there be a new Doom game when ID is bankrupt, silly?
WHAT?
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Post by VikingBoyBilly » Wed Feb 25, 2015 16:16

Didn't you hear? Zenimax was disappointed that rage didn't make enough money and Carmack got the boot.
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Post by szemi » Wed Feb 25, 2015 16:39

I've only heard Carmack left ID Software.


If we are talking about it, who owns Commander Keen? Still ID software? Or Apogee as well? (Since Keen Dreams.....)
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Re: Wolfenstein New Order looks cliche and dumb and retcons

Post by Roobar » Wed Feb 25, 2015 17:54

Paramultart wrote:Why not just call it Doom 4 even? It's like what they did with Mortal Kombat. How stupid.
The only thing I agree with.

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Post by VikingBoyBilly » Wed Feb 25, 2015 23:48

szemi wrote:I've only heard Carmack left ID Software.


If we are talking about it, who owns Commander Keen? Still ID software? Or Apogee as well? (Since Keen Dreams.....)
Please don't tell me Zenimax is arrogant enough to keep ID software running with every last member of the original team gone. I hate Carmack's stance on Keen, and even I think it's stupid to have an ID with him gone.
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Post by bp » Tue Jul 07, 2015 17:09

Just popped in this thread to say ~DOOM~ reboot looks pretty underwhelming
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Post by VikingBoyBilly » Tue Jul 07, 2015 17:22

becuz zenimax sux.

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Post by Paramultart » Wed Jul 08, 2015 22:58

Doom 3 was the last worthwhile thing ID Software ever did...

And that's sad, because Doom 3 kinda sucked. (Just a little.)
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Post by VikingBoyBilly » Wed Jul 08, 2015 23:28

I'd say Doom 3 has good assets, but a businesslike development process. The saddest thing about it is a lot of the fan maps, the stuff you'd expect to experiment, all have linear level designs for the most part.
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Post by tulip » Sat Jul 25, 2015 0:53

I dunno what you guys have, if a company does something new everybody keeps complaining that it's not keeping the original spirit up and they have forgotten their roots blah blah.
Then something like Doom comes along which does exactly what was expected. A pure doom shooter which looks like the old one but with a graphics update. And then everybody is complaining because it's unoriginal.

I mean don't get me wrong, I hate Doom, but I didn't like any part of them. But I still think this new Doom seem like it's fitting pretty well in the franchise.

I don't know what to say about Wolfenstein, but to bitch about storyline in a game about Zombie Nazis also seems a bit inapropriate to me.
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Post by Levellass » Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:02

Gamers don't want originality. Oh they praise it no end, but they don't purchase it. Yet sequel after sequel is critically panned but breaks sales records. This is typical of people, who don't know what they really want.
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Post by MoffD » Sat Jul 25, 2015 15:01

I applaud the halo franchise (tm)(r)(ltp)(lol)(meta)(spaghetti) for finding what people will buy; same basic gameplay rehashed endlessly (with a few minor tweaks here and there) but new/different graphics and environments over the same base level design and objectives (I'm looking at you singleplayer mode!) Go from point A to point B because you are the only one that stops teh evli aleirnz! stand and defend point, shoot more, shoot even more, shoot big things and done.

Not necessarily complaining though, it is the standard formula for fps's
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