New Jazz Jackrabbit editor

Post by **Levellass** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:41

First up, Swedish? Good gracious!

Second up, aaah, I see now. Is this a continuation of the anti-keen message in JotJ?

Third up, you are correct, sheep are in fact, referenced many times in British literature. In THHGTG they are noted as being surprised when the sun comes up (So long and thanks for all the fish, where the series SHOULD have ended.) and in Pratchett's A hatful of sky they are noted as 'things that went baas that only knew about eating and how to make other things that went baa' In some of the Gorean books they are considered little more than moving vegetables. (Though those books are disturbing enough as it is.) It thus appears to be a common theme, sheep are idiots.

This is not true, as any farmer can tell you. They are capable of extremely stupid behavior, but so are most animals limited by instinct. They can be trained, and I have spent most of my life in reasonable proximity to pet lambs of one sort or another. (If there are sheep jokes, I shall scream!)

Finally, is this Wowbagger the infinitely prolonged though? The Paperface mod one doesn't sound a bit like him. (And he has a bazooka, another difference.)

Post by **tulip** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 13:32

Yes, the infinetly prolonged. I think he and Bazooka Wowbagger have something in common: They both seem a bit like a jack-ass to me.

entropicdecay · Post by **entropicdecay** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 23:18

Hey, it's pretty awesome to see a new Jazz Jackrabbit 1 editor. I'd try it out and maybe make some levels if I still had the full version of the game.

Post by **Levellass** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:25

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That can be arranged. (Besides, it works with the shareware version and both HHs, indeed, shareware compatible levels are preferred.)

Deltamatic · Post by **Deltamatic** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:08

I've noticed that there seems to be some sort of pretended or real Jazz Jackrabbit/Commander Keen rivalry. Is this an in-joke, or real, or some combination of the two? How did it start?

IMA3HDDMNKY · Post by **IMA3HDDMNKY** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:14

I don't know about that, but there was a mention of Keen in Jill of the Jungle, if I recall correctly.

ZidaneA · Post by **ZidaneA** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:27

Deltamatic wrote:I've noticed that there seems to be some sort of pretended or real Jazz Jackrabbit/Commander Keen rivalry. Is this an in-joke, or real, or some combination of the two? How did it start?

I see it as an in-joke.
Apogee and Epic were rivals at the time, and teased each others games and stuff. I like both Keen and Jazz!

Deltamatic · Post by **Deltamatic** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 18:41

Ah, OK. I wondered if they were directly competing with each other or something.

Violet CLM · Post by **Violet CLM** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:57

I don't think that the lack of documentation should be too big of a deterrent, by the way. For the simple purposes of just editing layouts of existing levels, without adding new enemies or anything, J1E is quite easy to understand and it's not very easy at all to mess things up. Getting into more in-depth modification can take a little more time, but I (and I assume Newspaz) would be quite happy to take any questions, however specific. I haven't toyed with the sound or custom movements yet but everything else feels quite natural at this point.

Newspaz · Post by **Newspaz** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 19:48

For those interested, I released a new version. But because so few people are using it , I'm not really interested in writing extensive documentation. I've been talking to Levellass and I'm thinking of jumping ship and building a Keen editor instead.

Deltamatic · Post by **Deltamatic** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 21:03

What sort of Keen editor would this be? Vorticons? Galaxy? Dreams?

Post by **Levellass** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:42

As far as I am aware, Galaxy.

(I checked, Keen:Next IS a horrible memory hog!)

Snortimer · Post by **Snortimer** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:09

Thank you. If I were somewhat younger and had more time, I would definitely jump at the chance to make something with your tool: I was and am a big fan of JJ1 (I like it more than the sequel, actually). As it is, honesty compels me to say that I probably won't be doing that (never say never, though).

Just a quick question: Would it allow one to change the actual graphics, or just rearrange the existing things?

Newspaz · Post by **Newspaz** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:16

Snortimer wrote:Just a quick question: Would it allow one to change the actual graphics, or just rearrange the existing things?

As it is now, you can only create new tilesets. Levellass has a nice tool for importing other kinds of graphics though.

Violet CLM · Post by **Violet CLM** » Tue May 25, 2010 1:55

There's a new version out, with support for editing the bonus level layouts. Newspaz has also completed the biggest JJ1 levelpack to date (a whole episode's worth), showing off how much stuff can be modified.

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