[Update] Hocus Pocus Level editor v1.2

[Roobar]

OK I've done that and it shows me this:

[Hisymak]

That's perfectly okay. Let the program close and launch Hocus Pocus.

[Roobar]

Alright. Thanks.

Coming to think of, isn't it strange that after more than 20 years from the release of Doom and Hocus Pocus, we now play Hocus Pocus Doom mod and Doom Hocus Pokus mod? Who would have thought of this back then? Crazy...

And as for the modding. I like how well documented you are making everything, and I'm tempted to make something, but dealing with palettes is a nightmare for me. I've tried dealing with palettes in the past and I don't want to deal with that again (that's also the reason why I'm not making tiles or modding for Jazz Jackrabbit 2 for example). Some people here are into such limitations, but not me. Sorry. So that's that.

[Roobar]

I don't know from how long Hocus Pocus Beta is out, but just reporting that the editor opens the levels there as well:



There are some interesting changes.

You can download the Hocus Pocus beta from here: https://archive.org/details/HocusPocusBeta
You can download v1.2 of the editor from here: https://moddingwiki.shikadi.net/wiki/HocusEditor

[Frenkel]

I don't know from how long Hocus Pocus Beta is out

At least since 2004 on Lon Matero's Secret Beta Page.

[Hisymak]

I don't know from how long Hocus Pocus Beta is out, but just reporting that the editor opens the levels there as well:

Yes, I explicitly added support for the beta version, as some other person (I don't remember who) gave it to me and I was happy to finally have it. It has some flaws which were fortunately mitigated in the final release version.
The editor is, however, still missing support for full version 1.0. I only had version 1.1 and did not know where to get 1.0 from. Hopefully this is not a big deal, as almost everyone is probably using 1.1 version anyway.

[Roobar]

do you know what these errors mean:

[Hisymak]

This means he is trying to use editor on unsupported game version.
As I said, the full 1.0 version is not supported, because I did not have it on hand when developing the editor. Not sure which version he is actually having, whether it's 1.0 full, or some yet other version, which is not known.

[Roobar]

Trying the beta

[Hisymak]

Trying the beta

Then please check two things:
1. Whether there's a file called "beta.ini" inside the "Config" folder which is shipped with the editor, and whether there's a line starting "beta" in "versions.ini" file
2. Whether the hocus.exe file of the beta version he is using has exactly the same size as yours (the size that is mentioned inside versions.ini file, 218096 bytes)

[Roobar]

So turns out he was missing the config folder. Thanks for the support!

[DoomJedi]

Hope people are aware of the wonderful "Hocus Pocus" Doom mod.
Editable as well

[Hisymak]

So turns out he was missing the config folder. Thanks for the support!

So are you or your friend trying to make anything with the editor, or just looking around and examining existing levels?
I'd like to see some creations or at least some experiments from you!

[Roobar]

Look, I was just looking. For me, it's a love-hate relationship with this game. I love to play it, but I don't like the limitations. Limitations like you can't place crystals or columns in the sky. There's not much variety in a single tileset to work with either. The editor is full featured, but I'm used to different type of control schemes. My favorite editor is the one in SAHD (and CCHD) which is a joy to use. I like to right click to select and copy a tile/tiles instead of deleting them. I use middle mouse button and wasd to move the camera. I'd like to have some zoom-in/out with mousewheel or some keys. I also like to visually see all the objects as they would appear in the game, not some rectangles. Maybe Apogee will make an HD overhaul of Hocus Pocus as well. I imagine it will be with some new enemies, tilesets, steam workshop and will remove those limitations. It will be interesting. Who knows.