source code found?

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 18:56

sweet :D

Roobar · Post by **Roobar** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 19:00

_mr_m_ wrote:Here's to hoping id does the same thing they did for Wolfenstein and release the source!

Since you bring that up, can you tell what happened after the release of the source for Wolfenstein? I mean does someone made something noticeably major with it or because of it after that?

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 19:28

It allowed mods to take full advantage of source code changes. I've made a wolfenstein 3d mod myself with the help of a guy that edited the source code to add new features I wanted.

Done this way, it's far less hacky than with patches and reverse engineering.

DoomJedi · Post by **DoomJedi** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 19:41

wiivn wrote: Since you bring that up, can you tell what happened after the release of the source for Wolfenstein? I mean does someone made something noticeably major with it or because of it after that?

You probably don't follow the Wolf3D modding community...

http://www.moddb.com/games/wolfenstein-3d/mods

http://www.wolfenstein3d.co.uk/awards.htm

lemm · Post by **lemm** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 22:45

Aye, all Wolf3D mods are new executable files compiled from the source. Writing actual C code is far easier than writing machine code, which is what we do now for Keen.

Good to hear that it was Keens 4-6, too.

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 22:47

Gentlemen.

http://i.imgur.com/veoGzTH.jpg

Allstories · Post by **Allstories** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 0:07

Hooooly garg. This is big news

Lumpytoast · Post by **Lumpytoast** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:35

I AM STILL FREAKING OUT OVER THIS HOLY MOLY

MoffD · Post by **MoffD** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:11

I hope Tom remembers his password and posts an update here.

I can't wait for more information!

troublesomekeen · Post by **troublesomekeen** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:23

This is it! It's real! This is really happening! Oh my wow! Where do you guys get this kinda news?

Post by **Levellass** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:39

So would WE be able to make our own little executable files from the C code?

Would patches become obsolete? Would Lemm lose his only source of income and have to go live under a bridge?

lemm · Post by **lemm** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:59

Levellass wrote:So would WE be able to make our own little executable files from the C code?

Would patches become obsolete? Would Lemm lose his only source of income and have to go live under a bridge?

Yes we would, and I would choose the ability to compile over patching in a heartbeat. It's like we're entering the next era of Keen Modding.

_mr_m_ · Post by **_mr_m_** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:22

CKeen wrote:Gentlemen.

http://i.imgur.com/veoGzTH.jpg

Now just where did you get that picture?

wiivn wrote:Since you bring that up, can you tell what happened after the release of the source for Wolfenstein? I mean does someone made something noticeably major with it or because of it after that?

Pretty sure Project Totengraebber was one of the first major stand-alone games to come from the source code release. Also, I think SDL Wolf was another result of the source code.

I can only imagine the possibilities if this whole thing works out...

Bernie · Post by **Bernie** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:34

*checks the calender*

oh man. guys, its april fool's day

NY00123 · Post by **NY00123** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:20

Seems like this is the source of the photo: https://twitter.com/ablitter/status/377 ... 01/photo/1

It's still better to assume there is (almost?) nothing new as long as we don't have direct access to the sources.

Nevertheless, just the fact that the disk has been found after so many years can already be considered a significant event in the history of Commander Keen and everything related!

On a side-note, although it's a bit late now, looks like it's been 9 days since Hall's last birthday. That may bring some question for, well, some of you... I guess 7 times 7 is an answer!

EDIT: Oh yeah, checking the photo, it looks like some files and folders (if not all) originate from 1992. A general keen4-6 archive, to be more specific an archive file named keen4-6.tar.Z and a uncompressed directory named keen4-6, both have the modification date of Nov 9, 1992. A few subdirectories within the keen4-6 directory have the modification date of Apr 13, 1992. In each case the exact modification times differ a bit (by no more than 10 minutes).

Interestingly, looks like the .tar.Z archive format was used back then (for that keen4-6 archive)

Must be the result of using a certain workstation platform back in the days.