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Re: Need art help for big Keen easter egg/tribute

Post by Nisaba » Mon Dec 02, 2019 20:04

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Re: Need art help for big Keen easter egg/tribute

Post by Nisaba » Mon Dec 02, 2019 21:46

"swim swim hungry, swim swim hungry."

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Re: Need art help for big Keen easter egg/tribute

Post by Tormentor667 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 22:01

I feel scared 😄

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Re: Need art help for big Keen easter egg/tribute

Post by Nisaba » Mon Dec 02, 2019 22:30

"swim swim hungry, swim swim hungry."

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Re: Need art help for big Keen easter egg/tribute

Post by Roobar » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:47

Is that a schoolfish stuck in-between Dopefish's teeth? :crazy

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Re: Need art help for big Keen easter egg/tribute

Post by Tormentor667 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:45

Roobar wrote:
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Is that a schoolfish stuck in-between Dopefish's teeth? :crazy
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Re: Need art help for big Keen easter egg/tribute

Post by Ozymandias81 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 13:36

Thanks to you all Keen sprites received a big boost in terms of amount of rotations, here you are how many are actually present (thanks a bunch Nisaba!)

https://imgur.com/a/y8MCYt9

Also I added a new little rotation after Nisaba new attacks, this little one https://imgur.com/a/bNqRnj3
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Re: Need art help for big Keen easter egg/tribute

Post by DoomJedi » Tue Dec 03, 2019 19:19

Guys, a request.

A guy from the BoA team is trying to get his first post approved for days now, with no approval.
Are there still some active admins/moderators on this forum?

Others would just given up by now.

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Post by Grandy02 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 20:04

Whoa, Nisaba's sprite work is amazing in terms of both quality and quantity! :eek
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Re: Need art help for big Keen easter egg/tribute

Post by Nisaba » Tue Dec 03, 2019 20:57

hey there Ozymandias81 and welcome to the forums,

sorry about the inconvenience concerning your account activation. unfortunately we had some traffic irregularities which slowed things down quite a bit. but I'm sure you'll understand...
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Re: Need art help for big Keen easter egg/tribute

Post by Nisaba » Tue Dec 03, 2019 21:10

Ozymandias81 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 13:36
Thanks to you all Keen sprites received a big boost in terms of amount of rotations, here you are how many are actually present (thanks a bunch Nisaba!)

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I don't quite understand the logic of your sprite folder. let's for e.g. take a look a the Dopefish graphics. Why on earth are most of the rotations in triplicate? and which Dopefish graphics are still missing? please enlighten me.
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Re: Need art help for big Keen easter egg/tribute

Post by Tormentor667 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 21:22

No need to worry, the sprite folder can be a bit confusing :) The reason why some sprites are in there 3 times is easy: It‘s always the side facing sprites.

Doom uses a total of 8 directions for sprites. Doing 8 directions in total would be a huge task and also very difficult so we reduced them to 4 directions, where northeast, east and southeast are combined and so are northwest, west and southwest. The special directions are south and north facing the player or facing away.

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Re: Need art help for big Keen easter egg/tribute

Post by Ozymandias81 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 21:22

Nisaba wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 20:57
hey there Ozymandias81 and welcome to the forums,

sorry about the inconvenience concerning your account activation. unfortunately we had some traffic irregularities which slowed things down quite a bit. but I'm sure you'll understand...
Thank you kindly for approval of my posts, and yes I thought that about activation. In fact if I try to share some links belonging to this forum on facebook, I need to perform captchas
Anyway happy to be here now, once and then I'll keep you up to date with BoA Keen progress :dopekeen

About the sprite sort on BoA, many are just dummy entries to have the engine load properly without errors but in case of DopeFish (grazie per l'italiano ahah) we plan to use your additional attack frames as random anims when an attack occurs. Since Doom needs at least 1, 5, 8 or 16 frames for each rotation, atm we used frames we are okay with as rotation replacements, we want to keep things simple but obviously being in a somewhat 3d space and in First Person perspective we need to care about rotations (and at later stage even brightmaps imho which will give a modern impact visually)

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Re: Need art help for big Keen easter egg/tribute

Post by Nisaba » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:13

Tormentor667 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 21:22
[...] Doom uses a total of 8 directions for sprites. Doing 8 directions in total would be a huge task and also very difficult so we reduced them to 4 directions, where northeast, east and southeast are combined and so are northwest, west and southwest. [...]
Ok, so is it correct that the east facing Dopefish will get mirrored for the opposite three directions (northwest, west and southwest)?

Ozymandias81 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 13:36
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Looking at your folder I'm afraid a view mistakes have slipped in.

As I understand it this is logic of the Dopefish arrangement, right?
  • CKDFAx = swimming I
  • CKDFBx = swimming II
  • CKDFCx = biting I
  • CKDFDx = burping
  • CKDFEx = biting II
  • CKDFFx = biting III
  • CKDFGx = biting IV
I think you've swapped CKDFA5 and CKDFC5 (respectively CKDFD5, CKDFE5, CKDFE5, CKDGE5).
And you've swapped CKDFB5 and CKDFC5.

Next to that I'd suggest to use a copy of CKDFA1 for CKDFB1 as well. :dopefish
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Re: Need art help for big Keen easter egg/tribute

Post by Ozymandias81 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 16:56

Nisaba wrote: Ok, so is it correct that the east facing Dopefish will get mirrored for the opposite three directions (northwest, west and southwest)?
Yes that might work, but in case if people here is willingly to add more rotations obviously they are welcome
Nisaba wrote: Looking at your folder I'm afraid a view mistakes have slipped in.

As I understand it this is logic of the Dopefish arrangement, right?
  • CKDFAx = swimming I
  • CKDFBx = swimming II
  • CKDFCx = biting I
  • CKDFDx = burping
  • CKDFEx = biting II
  • CKDFFx = biting III
  • CKDFGx = biting IV
I think you've swapped CKDFA5 and CKDFC5 (respectively CKDFD5, CKDFE5, CKDFE5, CKDGE5).
And you've swapped CKDFB5 and CKDFC5.

Next to that I'd suggest to use a copy of CKDFA1 for CKDFB1 as well. :dopefish
Thanks for those, yeah some oversights from me and old stuff, working in-between 2 projects (BoA and BlooM) doesn't help to have mind clear :o
Fixed more and added proper frames for backfacing open mouth attack frames, so DopeFish is nearly done and if we go for just 4 rotations it needs Burp frames.

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Going to make a list of missing frames so everyone here will have a clearer idea of where to go with.

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